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Lets be Friends
With all the changes happening Who is officially admining the servers?

BFROC, TotalBFROC, TotalROE or BFROE?
klaude
QUOTE (Lets be Friends @ Mar 28 2007, 02:12 PM) *
With all the changes happening Who is officially admining the servers?

BFROC, TotalBFROC, TotalROE or BFROE?


BFROC is oficially admining the servers. Both BFROE and TotalROE do great jobs, but in the end I decided to go with who I was most familiar with. icon_smile.gif
ROC-ABN_RGR
BFROC is made up of the former Directors (all but 2) and most of the Officers of BFROE and is no longer under the control of MYIS.

TotalROE is made up of former BFROE Officers, and is still under MYIS.

I dont know anything about TotalBFROC



Need an admin?

www.bfroc.com

TS - 69.93.194.226:9999
Lets be Friends
Cool, I was curious which way the leavesfell on this one.
klaude
Heh, me too. And I'm really sorry for taking so long to come to the decision. Hopefully we can get back on track and playing games and such. icon_smile.gif
ROC-ABN_RGR
Well then I am going to throw another wrench in.

BFROC is trying to iron out some details. It looks as if we are going to monitor other games as well. We have been in contact with other Gaming companies to monitor their Ranking system. When this is finalized we will let everyone know which games. Having said that it looks as if BFROC will drop the BF part of the tag as we are not only going to monitor Batlefield. BFROC is now ROC.

BFROC has changed to ROC.

The BFROC.com site will forward you to www.RulesofCombat.com. The site is under construction, but the forums are up.

Sorry about all the confusion. Anyone dizzy yet?
Lets be Friends
QUOTE (BFROE-ABN_RGR @ Mar 30 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Well then I am going to throw another wrench in.

BFROC is trying to iron out some details. It looks as if we are going to monitor other games as well. We have been in contact with other Gaming companies to monitor their Ranking system. When this is finalized we will let everyone know which games. Having said that it looks as if BFROC will drop the BF part of the tag as we are not only going to monitor Batlefield. BFROC is now ROC.

BFROC has changed to ROC.

The BFROC.com site will forward you to www.RulesofCombat.com. The site is under construction, but the forums are up.

Sorry about all the confusion. Anyone dizzy yet?



I have heard about other games coming out with Ranking systems. When do we get a heads up on whats coming?
Is BFROC part of FeverGaming now?
Dizfunkshunal
Wow its so nice to See IndianScout and his crew admining the I365 server. Its also nice to see IndianScout has teamed up with Simon at Fever Gaming. Lets see here 2+2=4 yep just checking. Lets see lets lay out the facts shall we Simon Moon Founder of FeverGaming was busted hacking Here . IndianScout is more hated then the guy who runs the Dogs Dog tag server. So wheres this leave I365 servers? admined by Dictators supported by hackers?
ROC-ABN_RGR
QUOTE (Lets be Friends @ Apr 4 2007, 10:56 AM) *
I have heard about other games coming out with Ranking systems. When do we get a heads up on whats coming?
Is BFROC part of FeverGaming now?



No they are just hosting our forums. ROC is independant.
ROC-ABN_RGR
QUOTE (Dizfunkshunal @ Apr 4 2007, 07:29 PM) *
Wow its so nice to See IndianScout and his crew admining the I365 server. Its also nice to see IndianScout has teamed up with Simon at Fever Gaming. Lets see here 2+2=4 yep just checking. Lets see lets lay out the facts shall we Simon Moon Founder of FeverGaming was busted hacking Here . IndianScout is more hated then the guy who runs the Dogs Dog tag server. So wheres this leave I365 servers? admined by Dictators supported by hackers?


Nice try but just a bit outside.
Dizfunkshunal
It does not matter. BFROC roc what ever your name is now. Your being sponsored by a hacker! and you know it.
Xodus
QUOTE (BFROE-ABN_RGR @ Apr 4 2007, 04:19 PM) *
No they are just hosting our forums. ROC is independant.


What was wrong with the forums you had before you were on fever gaming?
TRashED VT_NERD
QUOTE (Dizfunkshunal @ Apr 4 2007, 08:29 PM) *
Wow its so nice to See IndianScout and his crew admining the I365 server. Its also nice to see IndianScout has teamed up with Simon at Fever Gaming. Lets see here 2+2=4 yep just checking. Lets see lets lay out the facts shall we Simon Moon Founder of FeverGaming was busted hacking Here . IndianScout is more hated then the guy who runs the Dogs Dog tag server. So wheres this leave I365 servers? admined by Dictators supported by hackers?


QUOTE (BFROE-ABN_RGR)
Nice try but just a bit outside.


Which part is outside?

SimonMoon is a proven cheat. His lame excuse about admins framing him is total BS. PsB screenshots cannot be manipulated, end of discussion. This is the reason why PsB is such a great tool for keeping cheaters off of servers with no possibility of admins doctoring images to frame players.

Joining a site that is run by a proven cheat is pretty low for any group that is supposed to police the ranking system for a game.

This doesn't even have anything to do with Indian either. Partnering with a known cheat is a bad move IMO. If your response is going to be "he wasn't cheating" then please don't even reply.
MaydaX
As kevin has said before personal jabs are best left for PM's so I think this should be handled on your forums or PM's here. However I will ask this, what happened to the last troe PBSS of the day posted by carefree one day ago?
ROC-ABN_RGR
QUOTE (Dizfunkshunal @ Apr 4 2007, 08:33 PM) *
It does not matter. BFROC roc what ever your name is now. Your being sponsored by a hacker! and you know it.


Diz, I'm not going to argue with you. We both know that TotalROE has a "Officer" that was reset for cheating.



VT_Nerd,

As I said we are not partners, they are hosting the forums. I agree saying and admin framed you is sad, I am a memeber of PSB and vote on SS, so I know how the system works. I have yet to see an innocent go on the MBL.

I think those running any reporting sytem should be held to a high standard, that is why so many that abused what little power they had @ BFROE were removed.

I will look into this when I get home over the weekend.

The part that was a bit outside - "admined by dictators" just read are forums, we are very forgiving when it comes to unbanning someone.
Lets be Friends
QUOTE (BFROE-ABN_RGR @ Apr 5 2007, 09:04 AM) *
I think those running any reporting sytem should be held to a high standard, that is why so many that abused what little power they had @ BFROE were removed.



You forgot the main one that abused her power, Indianscout.

While we are on the subject of IS, havn't you noticed his flighty behavior? He quits one day when he doesn't get her way, then returns a week later as if nothing happened. I have seen her do this with EVERY program she has been with. Sad. He allways gives me a good laugh when he quits, only to return somewhere else. I actually had hope for your site, until I saw he was back.

Cmon now, you seem like a nice enough guy, so I know you can see the pattern IS does:

1. Indian gets mad and goes off the deep end
2. Indian deletes himself and any posting hes made
3. Indian goes away for health reasons
4. Indian comes back like jekyl and Hyde acting as if nothing happened

He has lied to the community numerous times. Let me refresh your memory.
BF2RS. He said he left to start BFROE. Wrong, he was fired from bf2rs. And wrong about BFROE, MYIS started that and hired him. He touted that he started that, lol.Then he blames his insane actions on his meds. Very Sad. Ask him about starting under Qwik and Ghost @ BFROE. Ya.



Credibility.
In order to attain any credibility in the community, you must first earn the respect. You guys started another ROE/ROC site. (That is sad unto itself because Dice gave you all a heads up on the new ROC) OK, I'll buy it. Indianscout left the site. A HUGE PLUS for you guys. But you let her back in, BIG negitive. But now you have asscociated yourselves with KNOWN BF Hackers. This was a guy who was HACKING, not stat padding, BIG difference. I'll take stat padders on my server anyday over hackers. And look at Fevergaming, 2nd rate. The whole community knows that the site is ran by a known busted hacker. Why would you let them do anything for you? Pony up a few bucks and host the site yourself man, don't take a haxor for a sponser being an anti hack/cheat site, thats just plain dumb.

The only problem I have with you cats is simple, you admin the servers my GSP hosts. Word is allready spreading about BFROC and the poor choices you have made. This, in turn, will reflect on my GSP, Insomnia365. And Kevin and his motley crew here has done WAY too much work to be talked about in other forums as supporting haxors and letting IS tarnish thier name anyfurther.

If you guys want to admin servers, buy your own like everyone else.
rabbit994
Who gives a crap? They are a bunch of public servers populated by freeloaders. I don't blame kevin for freaking ignoring you all.

Oh yea, the whole ROC thing was EA telling you A. They don't really care about the ranking system. and B. They were sick of ROE drama. It's a freaking stats on a game, it's not like stats padders are coming into your homes and kicking your dogs. ROE/ROC/Insert group here is basically insignificant.
Dizfunkshunal
For one my forums are at www.dizfunkshunal.com I haven't been a member of totalroe for a few weeks now. if you all want to continue this on my forums no problem registration is totally free and i only ban for racism and threats of harm. as for an officer on totalroe being reset for cheating. sorry He was cleared by punkbuster from what I was told thats why Tim said he could join the staff.


as for your host who cares if he is hosting or apart of it does not matter he is a busted hacker. You have affiliated yourselfs with hackers! plain and simple. Is you reporting system for reporting people who DO NOT hack?


We did not start up another reporting site we took Tims bfroe and completely remodeled it made it ten times better and added feature and are still adding features. renamed it to be a part of the total community.


IndianScout only ran the program other than that he had nothing to do with it and no claim to it. bfroe program was designed and created befor IndianScout asked Tim for a position.

As for Kevin nothing personal as of yet but why would i listen to anything he says he has people that affiliate them selfs with hackers admining his servers. that does not give him much creditability. <that one will get me banned from these forums lol>


as for me bringing up that Simon is a hacker and has been busted hacking. How the heck is that low? He is the one that did the hacking not me.


dude you all should just go do something constructive with your time your done in the bf gaming community your leader has pissed way to many people off treating them like crap and abusing his power. The only way you guys have a chance at survival at this point is for Steve to Publicly Apologize to the Community and to those he screwed over.
klaude
QUOTE (Dizfunkshunal @ Apr 5 2007, 11:11 AM) *
As for Kevin nothing personal as of yet but why would i listen to anything he says he has people that affiliate them selfs with hackers admining his servers. that does not give him much creditability. <that one will get me banned from these forums lol>


I'm the last guy to ban someone for not agreeing with me or how I365 or the Planet does it's business. Just look at our suggestions forum. icon_smile.gif You're ok and are free to say whatever you want. Lets just keep it civil.

Each camp in this fun little tussle throws around the term "hacker" at each other like it's a hot potato. From my perspective its a bit silly. Lets all play games and have fun.
rabbit994
Hacker....
Dizfunkshunal
I'll keep it civil and personally I like I365 and its servers. I just don't like Steve. Well his attitude.
Xodus
QUOTE (klaude @ Apr 5 2007, 07:49 AM) *
Each camp in this fun little tussle throws around the term "hacker" at each other like it's a hot potato. From my perspective its a bit silly. Lets all play games and have fun.


I agree you should only call someone hacker if there's PROOF! And there is, right here: http://www.punksbusted.com/cgi-bin/members...rch;_accCheck=1

By allowing BFROC to affiliate with them, they will see that the admin of where BFROC is is a hacker. Then they will infer that members of BFROC are hackers. Then they will go Oh, The Planet allows hackers to admin their servers, How do I know that they are going to be secure. I don't' want that, I think I'll go to branzone (Who turned them down because of this icon_wink.gif ), etc, etc.
MaydaX
QUOTE (Xodus @ Apr 5 2007, 07:15 PM) *
I agree you should only call someone hacker if there's PROOF! And there is, right here: http://www.punksbusted.com/cgi-bin/members...rch;_accCheck=1

By allowing BFROC to affiliate with them, they will see that the admin of where BFROC is is a hacker. Then they will infer that members of BFROC are hackers. Then they will go Oh, The Planet allows hackers to admin their servers, How do I know that they are going to be secure. I don't' want that, I think I'll go to branzone (Who turned them down because of this icon_wink.gif ), etc, etc.



I will ask this, do you have access to bf2cc for the i365 servers to confirm what you are saying? If we allow hackers then explain the 458 bans on PBBans located here.

So please research the facts before making accusations. Thank You.
Xtreme1
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Dizfunkshunal
lmfao oh well you all have fun gaming and i mean all. I got money to make.
ShiftyMoves
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Lets be Friends
Bottom line, it just looks bad that BFROC is involved with Fever at all. But it goes along with how Indian is. He has burned all his bridges at all the other real BF sites, so he has only the bottom of the barrel to deal with.

It also makes sense that you guys went with PBbans instead of the real Streaming site PsB. PsB is what busted Simon.

I think your next step should be to devlop hax and sell them online. It follows the path you are taking.

And Kevin, Thanks for letting folks rant about this, that is why Insomnia is great! I don't think I have ever seen a locked post. Well except when Indian had forum admin here.
I know you made the choice of who admins your servers, and I respect that. I just feel that these guys duped you into beleiving they were something, when they were not.
emplot
QUOTE (Lets be Friends @ Apr 7 2007, 02:51 PM) *
It also makes sense that you guys went with PBbans instead of the real Streaming site PsB. PsB is what busted Simon.

I think your next step should be to devlop hax and sell them online. It follows the path you are taking.


I have been with psb and pbbans and imo pbbans seems to be better. Their new hub is awesome and I don't have to update my ban list anymore since it's done automatically.
I am now questioning the creditability of the bans at psb since a ban caught for VIOLATION (GAME HOOK) #120072 was lifted but others like it remains banned. The ban was for a totalbf2 super mod / total-clan leader [Tc] maranello1983 but it was caught in pbbans too.

The pbbans one still remains listed here. . However this is the psb ban before it was lifted as shown here. Also the psb lifted bans for BF2 does not show his ban lifted. It states "Removals from the last 60 days shown." Another cover up?

With that I don't trust psb anymore since I don't recall any other of those people getting unbanned. Plus letting a busted hacker have access to the streaming admin tools is not good. From my understanding if a violation number of a ban is lifted it means a false positive and all should be lifted. So psb is hiding something from us.
Lets be Friends
Good info emplot, thanks!
Xtreme1
QUOTE (Dizfunkshunal @ Apr 5 2007, 10:13 PM) *
lmfao oh well you all have fun gaming and i mean all. I got money to make.



He says this but he keeps creating topics here and continues this quest..lmao....
emplot
QUOTE (Xtreme1 @ Apr 5 2007, 08:38 PM) *
anyone associated with totalroe please do not post crap here ANYMORE!!!


So can't even follow your own advise?
Dizfunkshunal
QUOTE (Xtreme1 @ Apr 8 2007, 02:54 PM) *
He says this but he keeps creating topics here and continues this quest..lmao....


and your point is? If your going to post at least post in structured sentences.



lmfao
Xtreme1
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emplot
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Dizfunkshunal
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Xtreme1
pm it bro....see what kinda man you are.......im what 2 hours away?
Dizfunkshunal
sent address threw msn at you request
Dizfunkshunal
Well its 11:45pm I gave you my address going on 4 hours ago. Did you get lost?
klaude
And another drama fest locked. Stop it. You're all acting like children. The next one to open a topic to flame an admin group, admin, former admin, a former admin's mom, an admin's dog, the queen of sheeba, anakin skywalker, muddy boots on my just vacumned carpet, global warming, red states, blue states, or bicycles will have their forum accounts closed.
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