trepid_jesse
Jan 4 2007, 11:23 PM
I guess this will be my last, perhaps epic, diatribe against BFROE's involvement with Insomnia. Who even says diatribe? Nobody.
I don't remember how I originally found the Insomnia servers. I used to just play Daqing all day, but interspersed with the various other helicopter laden maps. When I first started playing in the Insomnia servers, I did what I always did -- I got in a helicopter and redzoned my gunner. I think I even redzoned Seabiscuit a time or two, what a sucker.
The point is, enough people told me they were going to report me to klaude, and they finally did. I had spoken with klaude, and after doing so he decided not to ban me, and let me continue to play at Insomnia servers given that I didn't redzone anymore gunners.
So, after that, I kept coming back to the Sharqi server and playin' entirely too much Sharqi. Sharqi is just fun stuff no matter which team you're on. For about six months, I think I played almost exclusively in the Insomnia Sharqi server.
It became apparently that klaude didn't have the time, or whatever reason it was, to actively monitor the Insomnia server and they were getting pretty full of lame players. Through whatever course of action, BFROE came to Insomnia and there was much rejoicing. I think everyone, initially, was glad that there was going to be some active administration taking place. I know that I was glad to have them around.
For me, it didn't take long before BFROE's involvement wasn't turning out quite the way I had anticipated. I don't really care to get into all of that -- "that" as in, what I had anticipated BFROE to be/accomplish. I think that'd probably be a worthless discussion, as nothing would be resolved.
Anywho, I've been gone for about a month during the holidays, I came back yesterday, and today I managed to get myself banned -- and there was just much rejoicing? Little did I know, but I've terroristic tendencies.
The offending statement, that resulted in me being banned, was that of, "I hope everyone involved with BFROE gets firebombed on their birthdays," or something very close -- I don't remember exactly. As in accordance with BFROE policy, a thread was made on their forums, and I replied to it. I wasn't going to reply to it, but when I was banned it was done so with a question, "firebombed??," and I couldn't leave the question unanswered.
I was quickly banned thereafter for a "terroristic threat" as it was so deemed. I would hope that I wouldn't need to elaborate on why that's a less than appropriate rationality for banning me. I think it would've been a bit more fitting for banning me for, "breaking the forum EULA," or whatever it was I agreed to when I registered. Then again, maybe there's that, "You will not threaten the members of this forum with acts of terror, which include, but are not limited to face burning, kidnapping, or firebombing," clause, but who knows, right?!
Gaahhh, I had quite a bit more to say, but I'm drifting into that awesome drowsiness that NyQuil has gifted me with, but I'm beginning to think I shouldn't take over-the-counter stuff on top of the prescription medicine I'm taking -- I think they all have some drowsiness side-effect. What am I babbling about? In no way is being sick awesome.
BFROE-IndianScout
Jan 4 2007, 11:26 PM
no on and I mean NO ONE makes a terroristic threat to me and my people,
I have already contaced your ISP along with EA the owner of BFROE and others..
this will not be taken lightly..
go threaten someone else..
I hop you rot in jail..
Indian
jabomb9
Jan 4 2007, 11:35 PM
Actually, he said he hopes it happens. He never said that he will do it..
Just like you <i>hope</i> he rots in jail..
smackdizz1e
Jan 4 2007, 11:48 PM
QUOTE (BFROE|IndianScout)
no on and I mean NO ONE makes a terroristic threat to me and my people,
I have already contaced your ISP along with EA the owner of BFROE and others..
this will not be taken lightly..
go threaten someone else..
I hop you rot in jail..
Indian
LOL.. I honestly just cant take this crap serious any more.. Are you even for real Indian? are you really that stupid????? Are you a 10 year old? did that guy make a terror threat against you and your so called "people"? LOL.. do you know how absolutely ignorant you look? How far off the "REALITY CHART" are you willing to go? My God man.. GET A GRIP. you are an idiot who admins a stupid game server... LOL.. yet you take it so serious.. WAKE UP!! I cant pretend to care any more.. this is so far from any thing that makes sense..
I wanted to play a game on a particular server that was normally full.. that's it.. I didnt want to join a "MAKE BELIEVE WORLD OF SERIOUS GAMER B.S".. Please look in the mirror and decide if you can take yourself serious anymore.. This entire thing is the worst joke I've ever seen in my entire life..
MADMAX
Jan 5 2007, 12:29 AM
unbelievable that this idiot takes something like that serious. im dropping the server i rent today if bfroe and indian are allowed around here. this guy is a complete retard that needs to uninstall. have a nice life indian....15 hours a day of "dedication" to this game has warped your sense of reality.
kevin delete/ban me if you like. im through with a company that is associated BFROE IDIOTSCOUT
TheShocker
Jan 5 2007, 12:29 AM
Indian, you do not have the personal skills to deal with people, who on earth gave you any right on these forums. To the "Boss" of these forums and Insomnia servers, please Remove Indian Scout. Every time he types he sinks lower and lower.
MADMAX
Jan 5 2007, 12:44 AM
actually..n.m. im done.
kev and indian have a wonderful life.
indian...get laid bro..jeez
Seabiscuit
Jan 5 2007, 10:24 AM
I believe in what bfroe stands for...however i do not believe in how they go about enforcing what they stand for. Trepid is an excellent player. And yes he did redzone me a time or two way back when..and boy was i pissed lol. me and my buddies used to hunt him down regardless of team till he was dead lol. Neways since then..it has been a pleasure playing with him. He is totally a team player now. Never cusses...which i never see in insomnia. Is alwayshelping out the team taking out enemy armor/air whenever spotted. He is one of the best helo pilots in the game that i have yet to see. I can not believe you banned him for expressing his opinions. He made that statement merely as a joke. Something to crack people up. In no way was he serious.
Even if he was saying he hopes is not a terrorist threat. I could say i hope the president dies..that is our right of free speech. To say i am going to do it is entirely different.(I don't hope he does die by the way). Neways...time for reality check here. Cmon its a game, some people are going to liek you some are not..but in no way can u make them like you. By banning people who express their opinions towards you lowers the respect the rest of the community has for you. Time to rethink this stuff guys.
BFROE-Dacster
Jan 5 2007, 11:22 AM
QUOTE (Seabiscuit)
I believe in what bfroe stands for...however i do not believe in how they go about enforcing what they stand for. Trepid is an excellent player. And yes he did redzone me a time or two way back when..and boy was i pissed lol. me and my buddies used to hunt him down regardless of team till he was dead lol. Neways since then..it has been a pleasure playing with him. He is totally a team player now. Never cusses...which i never see in insomnia. Is alwayshelping out the team taking out enemy armor/air whenever spotted. He is one of the best helo pilots in the game that i have yet to see. I can not believe you banned him for expressing his opinions. He made that statement merely as a joke. Something to crack people up. In no way was he serious.
Even if he was saying he hopes is not a terrorist threat. I could say i hope the president dies..that is our right of free speech. To say i am going to do it is entirely different.(I don't hope he does die by the way). Neways...time for reality check here. Cmon its a game, some people are going to liek you some are not..but in no way can u make them like you. By banning people who express their opinions towards you lowers the respect the rest of the community has for you. Time to rethink this stuff guys.
Actually other than the few of you that feel your being wronged by BFROE admining the Insomnia servers the majority of the players welcome us and play right beside us. I've never seen the servers not full when your not on so we all have a choice where we play and thats a choice you will have to make for yourselves. THB I feel you would whine at any admin brought in to handle the servers so alot of this is a mute point.
Just to let you know that Indian is one of the most respected members of the BF2 community and I doubt that most of you would donate the time that he puts in to help the community. Whether we're here or not I'm sure with time you will a server admin for these servers so it's something we all have to deal with, hell maybe some of you should get down off of your boxes and try to help instead of slinging mud.
ZekersSneakers
Jan 5 2007, 11:27 AM
wow...
Seabiscuit
Jan 5 2007, 11:31 AM
Do you honestly think I haven't tried to help. When all this was going on we were posting screens and what not trying to "help"
After u guys started admin i posted in the forums trying to get across the points that needed to be worked on. When that was still kinda iffy i started joining you guys on teamspeak to talk and hang out and get to know you guys to see what you were really like. Ask tin soldier, ranger, shifty, shocker..i am on all the time helping out with guys tking and what not. After hanging out with you guys a few weeks i thought hey maybe i can help these guys make a difference in the servers so i applied thinking maybe i could help out and get these servers straightened out (At least while i was playing).
I never said you guys aren't doing good. I said sometimes some of your admin go bout it the wrong way. I understand u have a lot of new recruits and what not which is fine. It takes time to train and get all of em on the same page and in the right direction. Neways I am trying to help...regardless of what you think.
Mush
Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (BFROE|Dacster)
hell maybe some of you should get down off of your boxes and try to help instead of slinging mud.
Dacster it seems you are the one that makes accusations most of the time. Your above statement shows how little time you take to read what is written by those of us who support you.
“Get off out boxes” What a crock!
If we did not care about the quality of the game I doubt that most of us would ever make any comment good or bad.
But by reading some of your posts It seems that no comment with the exception of someone who places their lips to YOUR ass can do right by you.
Take a moment and read the other threads and see THAT SOME DO SUPPORT BFROE.
You need to get off your box and put away your chip and relax.
In the end it is only a game.
BFROE-Dacster
Jan 5 2007, 02:02 PM
QUOTE (-=)
XSC[=-Mush]
QUOTE (BFROE|Dacster)
hell maybe some of you should get down off of your boxes and try to help instead of slinging mud.
Dacster it seems you are the one that makes accusations most of the time. Your above statement shows how little time you take to read what is written by those of us who support you.
“Get off out boxes” What a crock!
If we did not care about the quality of the game I doubt that most of us would ever make any comment good or bad.
But by reading some of your posts It seems that no comment with the exception of someone who places their lips to YOUR ass can do right by you.
Take a moment and read the other threads and see THAT SOME DO SUPPORT BFROE.
You need to get off your box and put away your chip and relax.
In the end it is only a game.
You take the hits that we do and tell me that you wouldn't have a chip too. Our job is thankless and yet every day we're called idiot's or nazi's. I read the posts and thank the people that support us but yet I'm not the one calling names through out these posts. I defend BFROE and what we do and until I'm told that it's no longer needed I will be in the front defending us. As for it being a game your right but EA feels they need to have their rules enforced so here we are like it or not.
Mush
Jan 5 2007, 02:06 PM
Alright I'm done with this thread.
I'll leave with this thought for everyone...
BFROE-Dacster
Jan 5 2007, 02:25 PM
I agree with you on that. Please feel free to hit me up at bfroe.com or on our TS, I'm here to help in any way I can.
Seabiscuit
Jan 5 2007, 02:50 PM
I guess I am still wondering as to the status of that ban. I would appreciate it if trepid were allowed to play in the servers again. As he was just expressing an opinion. It in no way affected neone or did neone really even comment on it besides maybe a little bit of chuckling. it was not a terrorist threat, merely just an expression. I understand it maybe have been uncalled for from your point of view. In no way did it warrant the kind of attention that it drew. People are going to hate you and people are goign to love you. Allowing them to express opinion for and against you is a sign of maturity.
I ask you to please repeal this ban and just warn him or let him know your stance on statements like that before you take such action. Besides, what happened to the 3 warnings as posted in a prior thread.
jabomb9
Jan 5 2007, 04:30 PM
jesse has been banned from all insomnia/BFROE things, he has been reported to the head of Punkbuster, and reported to EA. --According to Indian
Indian also said that he will need to get a new HDD, GPU, network card, and game if he wants to play any EA games again.
Complete and total bullshit imo.
R Echo
Jan 7 2007, 05:04 AM
QUOTE (jabomb9)
Indian also said that he will need to get a new HDD, GPU, network card, and game if he wants to play any EA games again.
BFROE-IndianScout
Jan 7 2007, 05:56 AM
actually that is taken out of complete context, we were talking about GUID global bans, and with that I am very much correct..
Jesse is globally banned from all insomnia servers is what I said and I am sticking to it, I have also contacted my several people for the threat..
nice try tho..
childish I swear..
SuperTyphoon
Jan 7 2007, 09:33 AM
QUOTE (jabomb9)
jesse has been banned from all insomnia/BFROE things, he has been reported to the head of Punkbuster, and reported to EA. --According to Indian
Indian also said that he will need to get a new HDD, GPU, network card, and game if he wants to play any EA games again.
Complete and total bullshit imo.
HAHAHA that's the funniest thing i have heard regarding bf2 in a long time. "Terrorist threats"? That's pathetic. CONTACTED ISP? That's even worse. GUID ban? They really think EA will care about that, when there are hackers and cheaters abound everywhere?
I don't know how anyone could take that serious, and even take action beyond banning from the servers/forums. This is the freakin INTERNET!! Parents teach kids to ignore that kind of stuff and go to another website.
/rant.
Lets be Friends
Jan 7 2007, 11:04 AM
Yet another reason to switch to BF2RS to help admin the Insomnia Public Servers.
Indian has allways been the "terrorist", not the other way. He is the biggest example of a child who was given the golden goose. He just can't handle it.
These type of threads will continue to pollute Insomnia's forums until BFROE is replaced by folks who actullay care about the game, not the power to kick/ban.
What a clown.
fpscops.com
Jan 7 2007, 11:40 AM
This crap plagued these forums before bfroe. I really think the type of community these free server's get, they shouldnt have a forum.
jabomb9
Jan 7 2007, 12:02 PM
QUOTE (BFROE|IndianScout)
actually that is taken out of complete context, we were talking about GUID global bans, and with that I am very much correct..
Jesse is globally banned from all insomnia servers is what I said and I am sticking to it, I have also contacted my several people for the threat..
nice try tho..
childish I swear..
I forgot the part saying if he gets the GUID global ban, that's what he'll need to do. My bad.
R Echo
Jan 7 2007, 01:07 PM
QUOTE (jabomb9)
QUOTE (BFROE|IndianScout)
actually that is taken out of complete context, we were talking about GUID global bans, and with that I am very much correct..
Jesse is globally banned from all insomnia servers is what I said and I am sticking to it, I have also contacted my several people for the threat..
nice try tho..
childish I swear..
I forgot the part saying if he gets the GUID global ban, that's what he'll need to do. My bad.
It's still codswollop.
rabbit994
Jan 7 2007, 01:28 PM
My takes on all this.
First off, as a fellow admin of other games, I've been called Nazi, idiot, terrorist, first amendment hater, hacker and so on. You simply laugh at it. Can't take it Dacster, get out of the kitchen. Many of non i365 freeloaders own their own gameservers. Trying to tell us we don't know what you go through is simply retarded.
Second off, the fact that BFROE staff has been ordered not to post here shows me they can't take criticism when they don't have moderator rights. That's generally a bad sign.
Third off, I've yet to see any list of rules besides BFROE being posted which is ambivalent. I'd have to agree that many of your guys are making up rules as they go along.
Fourth off, why is i365 forum on BFROE site locked down to Registered Member only? That makes telling people to go search your forum for reasons of banning quite frustrating as they can't see without jumping through hoops.
Zeus=18=
Jan 7 2007, 02:13 PM
QUOTE (Lets be Friends)
Yet another reason to switch to BF2RS to help admin the Insomnia Public Servers.
Indian has allways been the "terrorist", not the other way. He is the biggest example of a child who was given the golden goose. He just can't handle it.
These type of threads will continue to pollute Insomnia's forums until BFROE is replaced by folks who actullay care about the game, not the power to kick/ban.
What a clown.
QUOTE (rabbit994)
My takes on all this.
First off, as a fellow admin of other games, I've been called Nazi, idiot, terrorist, first amendment hater, hacker and so on. You simply laugh at it. Can't take it Dacster, get out of the kitchen. Many of non i365 freeloaders own their own gameservers. Trying to tell us we don't know what you go through is simply retarded.
Second off, the fact that BFROE staff has been ordered not to post here shows me they can't take criticism when they don't have moderator rights. That's generally a bad sign.
Third off, I've yet to see any list of rules besides BFROE being posted which is ambivalent. I'd have to agree that many of your guys are making up rules as they go along.
Fourth off, why is i365 forum on BFROE site locked down to Registered Member only? That makes telling people to go search your forum for reasons of banning quite frustrating as they can't see without jumping through hoops.
finally...two regulars on these forums that actually support the gamers trying to get bfroe off the servers instead of people like fpspigs.com and other people just flaming the gamers and supporting bfroe.
bfroe are morons...check on bf2s.com and search up BFROE threads or indianscout threads...you will see indianscout is nothing but a power hungry idiot who is a stupid ban hungry m'fcker and will do anything to get "power". lol the internets is indians life.
BFROE-Dacster
Jan 7 2007, 02:18 PM
QUOTE (rabbit994)
My takes on all this.
First off, as a fellow admin of other games, I've been called Nazi, idiot, terrorist, first amendment hater, hacker and so on. You simply laugh at it. Can't take it Dacster, get out of the kitchen. Many of non i365 freeloaders own their own gameservers. Trying to tell us we don't know what you go through is simply retarded.
Second off, the fact that BFROE staff has been ordered not to post here shows me they can't take criticism when they don't have moderator rights. That's generally a bad sign.
Third off, I've yet to see any list of rules besides BFROE being posted which is ambivalent. I'd have to agree that many of your guys are making up rules as they go along.
Fourth off, why is i365 forum on BFROE site locked down to Registered Member only? That makes telling people to go search your forum for reasons of banning quite frustrating as they can't see without jumping through hoops.
First off, I can post if I want to we just didn't want to keep the flaming going. As for the comments made to us we are use to it and frankly I could care less. You have no clue what it takes to do my job in BFROE and you don't know who we report to so trying to get you to understand this is a mute point. Remember BFROE forums require you to register, want to make a post become a member. Want to take this conversation further please PM me at BFROE.com
Matt2k
Jan 7 2007, 02:39 PM
> You have no clue what it takes to do my job in BFROE and you don't know who we report to so trying to get you to understand this is a mute point.
It may be a moot point, but I don't know if I would call it a "job" so much as a volunteer who plays a game and kicks people out.
But really, who cares if the OP said something about a firebomb. It's Internet trash talk. I think a good moderator is defined by their discretionary use of their granted privileges, not by the frequency of their usage and controversy attracted.
And that said, just play at another server. If you feel like the pigs are running the farm, then rather than waste time with a silly power struggle "I'm going to kick you" "No, I'm going to cancel my servers! Take that! Hah-HAH!", just like, play on a different server maybe?
I don't get to play online games as much as I once did, but at the time I remember getting frustrated a lot by what I thought were dumb administrators and dumb rules. I would get kicked and banned based on accusations of another player with a grudge, that sort of stuff, and I would get so steamed up! And then I realized. HEY. I'll go start my OWN server. With hookers. And blackjack. And you get the idea.
rabbit994
Jan 7 2007, 02:41 PM
Fact that you want me to PM you at BFROE is bothersome to me because it indicates you want to play somewhere where you have power. Here is fine. Regardless of your desire, i365 name is attached to server and yall will have to deal with people coming here instead of BFROE.
Second, yall require registration to even VIEW the i365 forums. That is part that needs to be changed. Nothing there is secret enough to hide from unregistered members.
Paul
Jan 7 2007, 02:55 PM
QUOTE (Zeus=18=)
finally...two regulars on these forums that actually support the gamers trying to get bfroe off the servers instead of people like fpspigs.com and other people just flaming the gamers and supporting bfroe.
I think you're all annoying kids to be honest. Can't wait for Kevin to delete this forum.
MADMAX
Jan 7 2007, 04:29 PM
the only way kevin will find out about bfroe is to not delete this and the other topics. it is turning into a flame fest but. with the few comments that indian has made should wake kevin up to how they think over there at bfroe....this is life to them.
we are here to fight for a server we loved to play in and they are fighting a war against terror!lmao
indian thinks he is the president of these states and he wont stop until all terrorist threats against his men have stopped...wtf?
bfroe..all they did was edit/delete all others or ban them from those forums. like they did here until people like me complained to kevin. and showed proof of bfroe unfair bans and editing of these forums by s.s. the last few comments i made and displayed them to him. they lost the privelge on these forums. dont go to bfroe forums .all youll find at bfroe site is positive comments toward them. they edit all negative/constructive comments. no reason to go bfroe at all.
R Echo
Jan 8 2007, 06:39 AM
...
What?
Mush
Jan 8 2007, 07:59 AM
This is only a thought but I believe a urinalysis and reality test should be conducted before posts are made. The test results would be indicate the state of mind a person is in when a post is made.
Disclaimer:
This is only a personal opinion and not to be construed as a policy of the management which after looking at the last test results fully believe your f***ed in the mind.
MADMAX
Jan 8 2007, 01:36 PM
Zeus=18=
Jan 8 2007, 01:43 PM
QUOTE (MADMAX)
lol i made that thread...just had to do it...the internets are fun
BFROE-Dacster
Jan 8 2007, 02:47 PM
QUOTE (Zeus=18=)
QUOTE (MADMAX)
lol i made that thread...just had to do it...the internets are fun
Just goes to show how childish this has become. The fact is that Kevin wants his servers ran a certain way and if you have a problem you should take it up with him. I guess your request to have BFROE removed hasn't been met so that to me says alot even without Kevin actually saying it if I'm wrong I apologize Kevin. Time to move on gentleman and get back to playing whether it's on Insomnia or some other server.
SuperTyphoon
Jan 8 2007, 04:16 PM
QUOTE (BFROE|Dacster)
QUOTE (Zeus=18=)
QUOTE (MADMAX)
lol i made that thread...just had to do it...the internets are fun
Just goes to show how childish this has become. The fact is that Kevin wants his servers ran a certain way and if you have a problem you should take it up with him. I guess your request to have BFROE removed hasn't been met so that to me says alot even without Kevin actually saying it if I'm wrong I apologize Kevin. Time to move on gentleman and get back to playing whether it's on Insomnia or some other server.
Kevin did not ask for the servers to be run exactly how they are. He just requested that BFROE admin them and enforce their rules. How could he have known what to expect?
R Echo
Jan 8 2007, 04:55 PM
QUOTE
Kevin did not ask for the servers to be run exactly how they are. He just requested that BFROE admin them and enforce their rules. How could he have known what to expect?
orly?
Please tell me how you came to know what Kevin asked of BFROE.
fpscops.com
Jan 8 2007, 05:11 PM
I heardz kevinz. Hes sadz no coptor whoreing. I was theer. I promise he also said no curse's. It was on teamspeak.
R Echo
Jan 9 2007, 04:56 AM
oic m8 i gettit know
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