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Hawaii69
Hi, this is my first post here.

I play a lot on the Insomnia365 Wake 2007 server
because I love Wake, I get a decent ping, and
it is usually at leat 80% full of players.

However, the experience of playing there has
really been going downhill. I think the primary
reason for this is that the server NEVER switches
the teams. On many single map servers, the server
will switch the teams from one nationality to the
other every round, to keep things from getting
dull. Since the Insomnia Wake server keeps you
on one side all the time, the follwing tends
to happen:

1) The Chinese teams is almost always VERY stacked
with long time players trying to get easy
points. The Chinese team is full of
Colonels/Lieutenants, and the USMC full of Seargents.
No easy way to switch teams, unless they become
numerically unbalanced.

2) The Chinese team rapes...and rapes...and rapes...
and...(you get the idea) the carrier for points.
It's almost always the same pilots. I don't mind
someone occasionally hitting the carrier, but these
guys (including the Commander) go after the carrier
CONSTANTLY (seemingly oblivious to what
is happening on the island)in order to get
easy points.

3) Without any "fear" of having to play as USMC the
next round, the Chinese team does the above. Knowing
they don't have to worry about being auto switched
to USMC the next round, they don't care about any
sense of fair play toward the USMC side. They can
just keep grabbing the cheap points for hours on end.

4 )Seems that a lot of boredom building up on the
USMC side. People end up just acting like idiots
on the carrier deck. Blowing eachother up with C4,
sniping eachother for the jet/helo, injuring and
healing people, etc. I've seen one high ranking
commander take the position over and over, only to
drop himself vehicles and drive around the carrier,
or arty his own people on the deck.


So....I think setting up the server to rotate the
teams would help a lot. This server also needs
some more admin attention. It's attracted some
really lousy people the past few weeks. 30 seconds
after the round starts, there are already 4 guys
on the carrier deck with -10 scores. You don't
know who to try to kick first.

I know this stuff happens occasionally on ALL
servers, but I've really noticed that the Insomnia
365 Wake server has been among the worst for it
recently.

Thanks.
ZekersSneakers
Wake is such a china sided map, US CANNOT win when there are good j-10 pilots and a good chopper team in the air. Too bad the J-10 abusers never get kicked, just the good US pilots.
BFROE-IndianScout
we tested the server with the uncap rule in place but so many regulars complained that we had to remove it.

as far as going downhill

Wake is ranked in the top 10 world wide this morning

Sharqi is ranked 16th

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BFROE-Dacster
QUOTE (ZekersSneakers)
Wake is such a china sided map, US CANNOT win when there are good j-10 pilots and a good chopper team in the air. Too bad the J-10 abusers never get kicked, just the good US pilots.


Zeekers you are one of the ppl that never change and when we force the issue you whine about it. We found that out yesterday when you were put on the Chinese side and didnt fair as well as you do on the US. As for kicking the good USA pilots yes you were kicked for not switching sides and plane whoring. Give the new guys a shot at flying and do something for your team when your not flying like actually trying to help them win rather than stand on the carrier waiting for a plane to spawn for 5 mins.
Hawaii69
>>we tested the server with the uncap rule in place but so many regulars complained that we had to remove it.<<

My suggestion wasn't to do with uncaps. It
was simply that the server auto-switch
the Nationality of the teams every round. As it
is, the sides never change. You find yourself
on the same side of the battle round after
round.

>>Wake is ranked in the top 10 world wide this morning<<

Maybe so, due to the sheer number of players on the
server. I was speaking in terms of the quality
of the experience. People are amazingly well
behaved when someome with "BFROE" in their nick
is present, but not otherwise.

I played on the server last night and mentioned
that I made the "auto switch sides" suggestion,
and someone on the Chinese team replied something
like:

"I disagree with that. People know this
is a whoring server, and they come here to whore
on the Chinese side!"

But hey, it's your server. I'm not suggesting
strict rules. I'm only suggesting that if my
team is Chinese one round, they spawn as USMC
the next, and then back to Chinese...and so on.
Keeps things far more interesting.
Hawaii69
By the way, at this moment, there is someone
command hacking the hell out of your Wake
server. When you try to command, he boots
you from it. Then he'll let you command
for a while, only to hijack it and
drop cartillery for 3 minutes straight.
ROCKER45
QUOTE (BFROE|Dacster)
QUOTE (ZekersSneakers)
Wake is such a china sided map, US CANNOT win when there are good j-10 pilots and a good chopper team in the air. Too bad the J-10 abusers never get kicked, just the good US pilots.


Zeekers you are one of the ppl that never change and when we force the issue you whine about it. We found that out yesterday when you were put on the Chinese side and didnt fair as well as you do on the US. As for kicking the good USA pilots yes you were kicked for not switching sides and plane whoring. Give the new guys a shot at flying and do something for your team when your not flying like actually trying to help them win rather than stand on the carrier waiting for a plane to spawn for 5 mins.


You've got to be kidding me that you kicked decent F35 pilots. If players like zekers do not get up in a F35 the USMC has no hope. When inexperienced pilots waste strategic resources like F35s they create round imbalances that let the J10s rape the carrier with impunity.

More importantly you kicked him for not switching? Is this enforced by an auto switch mechanism? To my understanding switching is done by choice on the insomnia servers.

Lastly, you cite that he didn't do as "well" when you forced him to switch to the chinese team. Do you really believe that he is motivated by points anymore? If that was the case then he would always choose chinese and fly the J10s, get 80-100 kills a round, end of story. But he doesn't. He chooses to play as the underpowered USMC and fly weak F35 vs. the bugged J10. He chooses to play on the underdog side and you kick him for that.

You should be actively recruiting players like Zekers to help even the server play out. Instead you're kicking one of the few players that chooses to play the underdog.
BFROE-Dacster
He was kicked for not following the server rule to switch sides and you didn't hear his comments in TS about it so if anything this is between BFROE and Zekers.
ROCKER45
QUOTE (BFROE|Dacster)
He was kicked for not following the server rule to switch sides and you didn't hear his comments in TS about it so if anything this is between BFROE and Zekers.


There is no "server rule" to switch sides. That was implemented and then repealed.
BFROE-IndianScout
actully insomnia has the servers setup to swap teams each round so it makes it fair to everyone
ROCKER45
QUOTE (BFROE|IndianScout)
actully insomnia has the servers setup to swap teams each round so it makes it fair to everyone


Maybe this is a bug report then, but the Wake server isn't switching the players between teams. It just disbands all of the squads and leaves the players on the same team.
BFROE-IndianScout
already reported it to them

thanks tho..

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ROCKER45
QUOTE (BFROE|IndianScout)
already reported it to them

thanks tho..

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Quick question, will forced team switching be permanent? I really hate having to constantly reorganize squads. It's seriously hampering the community on the Wake servers.

I understand why you would implement such a feature, but I don't think it's worth it. Particularly since people just switch to whatever team they want at the beginning of the round anyway.
ZekersSneakers
QUOTE (BFROE|Dacster)
As for kicking the good USA pilots yes you were kicked for not switching sides and plane whoring. Give the new guys a shot at flying and do something for your team when your not flying like actually trying to help them win rather than stand on the carrier waiting for a plane to spawn for 5 mins.


Sorry but plane whoring is against what rule? I do more in the plane than 10 newbies do on the ground, tell me I don't help my team when I ground the J-10's and the Z-10 for the entire round to let US cap the airfield.

The major problem I had with you guys kicking me, is that I've seldom seen you do it to ANYONE else, I don't see why I get the whip and nobody else does.

Can we get this rule on the server screen, or in the scrolling text or something? Why isn't it posted anywhere? ROE reference would be nice too.

I don't mind following this "rule", but when everyone else gets to choose which team they play on, I feel like the sucker.

Thanks,

Zeke.
DalianPlant
Hey I got a suggestion get rid of the **** admins.
rabbit994
QUOTE (DalianPlant)
Hey I got a suggestion get rid of the **** admins.


I got a suggestion, stop posting and go bitch on their forums.
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