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patriotcow

Apr 17 2005, 01:56 PM

Like directi ask for the nameserver but don't bother asking for the nameservers IP address. Should I email them to ask them to asign the IP address to the nameservers, because how will they find out?

JaggedIce

Apr 17 2005, 02:02 PM

patriotcow

Apr 17 2005, 02:06 PM

I mean like hostbind.co.uk's registrar asked me for the IP address aswell as the ns.myname.com and that worked fine. But when wanting to use the same nameservers with directi they don't ask for the IP addresses so it doesn't work or is it a coincidence and they will just somehow know.

cprompt

Apr 17 2005, 02:11 PM

If you used the same nameservers, then I guess that the A record already exists, so it can look them up and add in the IPs automatically, maybe?

patriotcow

Apr 17 2005, 02:19 PM

I really don't know how it just guesses them. Its normally instant, do registrars share the nameserver database or somthing and update at midnight? Or did they manually bind the IP and nameserver name. Like ns1.hostbind.co.uk doesn't load except thats the nameserver used for hostbind.co.uk which does load.. Just wondering if its a problem with my server or not but I dont see how if hostbind.co.uk managed to work using that dns. I am going to open a support ticket with directi and see if they should assign the IP for the namsevers.

patriotcow

Apr 17 2005, 02:27 PM

Or is my helm dns records setup wrong?

CODE

<domain>.    A    <ip>

<domain>.    MX (10)    mail.<domain>.

<domain>.    NS    ns.<domain>.

<ip> / 24    PTR    <domain>.

ftp.<domain>.    CNAME    <domain>.

hostbind.co.uk.<domain>.    A    70.85.135.197

mail.<domain>.    A    <ip>

mssql.<domain>.    A    <ip>

ns.<domain>.    A    <ip>

ns1.hostbind.co.uk.<domain>.    A    70.85.135.197

ns2.hostbind.co.uk.<domain>.    A    70.85.135.198

webmail.<domain>.    A    <ip>

www.hostbind.co.uk.<domain>.    NS    ns1.hostbind.co.uk.

www.hostbind.co.uk.<domain>.    NS    ns2.hostbind.co.uk.

patriotcow

Apr 17 2005, 02:48 PM

Ok I managed it, was my setup

patriotcow

Apr 18 2005, 10:10 AM

Ok still struggling, Does the domain have to be setup pointing to dns servers of the dns servers I want to make. Like I have x.com pointing to another server but I want to create ns1.x.com on another server...can I do that or would I need to have the x.com hosted on the server I want to create the nameservers on?

cprompt

Apr 18 2005, 10:17 AM

You can create name servers on any IP you want to, so I guess the answer is No. So, you could have

x.com NS ns1.y.com
x.com NS ns2.y.com
x.com A 1.2.3.4 (<= from n1.y.com)
ns1.y.com A 2.3.4.5
ns2.y.com A 2.3.4.6
ns1.x.com A 1.2.3.5
ns2.x.com A 1.2.3.6

If that makes any more sense than your question

patriotcow

Apr 18 2005, 02:50 PM

I am afraid I don't understand, I have no y.com just domain.com which I want to be the dns for both servers.

I have ns1.domain.com
ns2.domain.com

Those are on my cpanel box, but I also want to use them for my windows box which is using helm. Not sure how to do it.

ghideout

Apr 18 2005, 03:43 PM

I assume x and y stand for two domains.

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