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pstar
i would like to change over ns. i'm currently using ns1.theplanet.net and ns2.theplanet.net. i want to switch to ns1.mydomain.net and ns2.mydomain.net. my domain is registered with godaddy.com. how do i start the process to change over. steps anyone. thanks....
eddy2099
Since you have not mentioned which Operating System and Control Panel, I would assumed that you have that end handled.

At GoDaddy, Login into your account using 'My Account'. After you are login, click 'Manage Domains' under the 'Domain Names' option.

Make sure that the domain name which you are basing your DNS server on is Unlocked. If it is locked then just unlock it.

Then click on that domain name. Under 'Domain Details', expand the last option on the right which is called 'Domain Host Summary'. Then click on 'Click here to see details or to modify.' link at the bottom on the right.

Enter the DNS Server name and IP address of your dns servers and click 'Add New Host'. Continue with the second DNS Server Name.

*Note : Make sure this matches that on your server.

Once you are done, click on 'Save Changes' and just wait for 24 to 72 hours. This would allow your DNS servers to propagate. Once you are done, you could change the 'Nameservers Summary' and change the reference to your newly set up DNS servers.

That's all folks.
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pstar
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do i replace ns1.theplanet.com with my own. I get an error when do so.

where do i start....
Kyle
You have to register the nameservers first. It sounds like you're starting in "Nameserver Summmary" when you should be in "Domain Host Summary."
pstar
I have ns1mydomain.com and ns1mydomain.com listed under domain host summary and have ns1.the plantet.com and ns2.the plantet.com under nameserver summary.

Can I do this and do i need different ip's when adding ns's
eddy2099
Yes, you can continue to use ns1/ns2.theplanet.com for your dns when you base another DNS servers on that same domain name.

Your Domain Host Summary (DNS Servers) details must match the ones you use to set up the DNS servers on your machine or else it would not resolve. You can use the same IP address to host websites and host dns servers too as they do not use the same port number thus would not clash.
pjd2003
ok eddy thanks... can you clarify for someone in a similar situation... but a total beginner:

i am currently using ns1.theplanet.com and ns2.theplanet.com

i want to register ns1/ns2.mydomain.com

are you saying i need to effectively point ns1/ns2.mydomain.com to ns1/ns2.theplanet.com?

do i still need to go through the motions of sending an email to servermatrix everytime i want a new domain added to their DNS? i am migrating to modernbill now and am wondering if this is possible to automate?

just say there is another option where i use my own nameservers and everything is automated, and i change over from ns1/ns2.theplanet.com
to ns1/ns2.mydomain.com - is there a chance i could screw everything up and everyones site goes down?

thanks again
eddy2099
No, if you are using your dns servers ns1/ns2.yourdomain.com then you do not need to use ns1/ns2.theplanet.com or use Orbit to update the DNS entry.

Pstar was asking if it is possible to create the dns servers on the machine and yet host the site using theplanet dns. If that is the case, it is possible. But if you want to move totally away from theplanet dns then you do not need to inform them about anything.

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are you saying i need to effectively point ns1/ns2.mydomain.com to ns1/ns2.theplanet.com?


Nope. You can run your DNS servers independently from theplanet.

If everything runs off your server then the DNS would also be controlled from the server which means yes, it would be automated.

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just say there is another option where i use my own nameservers and everything is automated, and i change over from ns1/ns2.theplanet.com  
to ns1/ns2.mydomain.com - is there a chance i could screw everything up and everyones site goes down?


Well, if the ns1/ns2.mydomain.com is not done properly, the switch over to them might cause problems. But if you ensure that everything works then the switch over would be painless. If there is no change in IP addresses, you probably wouldn't sense any downtime.

It is like prior to propagation, all sites would be using ns1/ns2.theplanet.com then when the dns entry get propagate to that isp, it would do the seamless switch over to the new dns.

Usually what I do is to change a single non-active site over from one dns server to another then check to see if the site is still reachable within 48 hours. If it still works then I'll do the massive change. But make sure you check every entry in the DNS servers to be sure you got it right.
pjd2003
Hi eddy,
ok so i have ns1/ns2.mydomain.com registered correctly at godaddy. i assigned them the next two IP numbers i have allocated (e.g. my server is x.x.x.52 i have used x.x.x.53 for ns1 and 54 for ns2)
i went into my WHM and added these two IPs to my pool

now what do i do!
In server setup in whm, edit setup i have:

Primary Nameserver:
Secondary Nameserver:

These have ns1/ns2.servermatrix.com in them at the moment. I dont want to change this in case all my sites go offline! Do these NEED to be changed? Or can i go ahead and start using my own ns1/ns2 for new domain registrations and hope for the best? is there some other setting i need to check (i.e. do i have to put ns1 and ns2.mydomain.com anywhere in WHM setup?)

Cheers
eddy2099
Yes, you would need to change the primary and secondary DNS servers to that which you create. However, you will need to allow at least 48 hours for it to propagate.

However, those sites which you are still using ns1/ns2.servermatrix.com would still continually work.
pjd2003
ah ok so just to ultra clarify (can you tell i am a bit nervous about doing this?)

i go into WHM --> Server Setup --> Edit Setup

and under the bit:

Primary Nameserver:
Enter the hostname of the primary nameserver (normally, the name of this server) you wish to use when creating new domains or subdomains.

I put in ns1.mydomain.com and likewise for the other one?

And this then takes propogation time too?

Also, how come the ns1/sm2.SM will still work? i am sure i had to put ns1.servermatrix.com and ns2.servermatrix.com in there to make it work when i set it up... would seem there would be no reference to sm at all if i changed?

thanks again eddy - you are a real help on these forums
Paul
All the entrys on that page does is tells WHM what to use when creating new accounts.

If you understood how DNS worked then you'd see, but otherwise it's difficult to explain.
pjd2003
yeah i am sorta getting my head round it with the help of people here...
so i should change that setting then? do i need to do anything special elsewhere in WHM, i mean do i need to reserve the two new IPs in any way solely for DNS use?
thanks
eddy2099
The thing is that all your sites which are still using ns1/ns2.severmatrix.com would still function even if you setup the DNS servers on your machine because in that circumstances, the sites are not using your DNS servers.

Here is a simplified version of what happens.. <<not totally accurate but all simplify for illustration purposes>>

When some types : http://www.yourdomain.com on their web browser. Their web browser would check where that web site is located and to do that, they check the Domain Name records you submitted at your domain name register.. The browser would see, hmmm, www.yourdomain.com is using ns1/ns2.servermatrix.com as the DNS servers.. Then the request would be diverted to ns1.servermatrix.com and that would contain the IP address for which yourdomain.com would be in and Hey Presto! your website appears.

As long as your domain name details at your Domain Name Registrar does not reflect ns1/ns2.yourdomain.com as the dns servers, they would not know they exists and thus would not check there.
pjd2003
hi again!
ok i just added my new nameservers in WHM Server Setup... when i click assign IP address for the nameserver ns1.mydomain.com it assigns it the same IP as the server... e.g. if my server is at 69.x.x.62 then:

ns1.mydomain.com is assigned 69.x.x.62
ns2.mydomain.com is assigned 69.x.x.63

is this correct? or should it be 63 and 64? it seems the first ns shares the ip with the server
thanks

p.s. also do i need to hit 'add an A entry' for each nameserver?
eddy2099
Well, WHM would always assign the first available set of IPs for your DNS. Which is alright since DNS and websites runs on different ports so they do not interfere.

If you want x.x.x.63 and x.x.x.64 assigned as DNS servers. What you could do is first assign x.x.x.62 as something like deleteme.yoursite.com , followed by x.x.x.63 as ns1.yoursite.com then x.x.x.64 as ns2.yoursite.com . Then once you are done with the ns2 go and delete the first entry. That's how I did mine.

Hitting the 'Add an A Entry' would not do any harm but used as a fail check to enter the entry if it has not already been added. I usually do so.
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