Anyone know where i can get business template for game servers? around $0-50, this guy wanted to charge me $500 for a website,

templatemonster.com
Not that those arent all going to be used 10 other places, but they seem to be cheap.

www.4templates.com

I can build you one... pm me if ur interested.

mtechnik.com alot of people use his Server Template.

thanks one of my friend said he would help .. Question how do u link pay pal to the customer after the fill out my application for the server and hit submit and it goes to this one like This

Well we all know where you have been looking now. Best bet for a template is to get a proper web designer to do one. Then 10,000 other people wont have it and your site will be unique. Take a look at www.verzus.co.uk thats where i get my site done from. Hes real good and will do stuff cheap. If you want anything from there tell me and ill try get you a deal.

was thinking the same thing....funny how someone cant set up a simple cart can start a gsp buisnness...rofl

Templates are evil! I've been using a phpnuke template for my site a couple of months, and just recently have seen it used on about 5 other sites, and even got a request to help someone install the same template for his game server company...needless to say I know I'm done with it. Actually, a website has already been "built" just waiting on completion of my custom built control panel to go live with it.

You can tell a template when you see one. Your best bet is to have someone make a site for you.

I dont mean to sound like an ass here, but well, you've gone from asking how to stop/start/restart game servers, to not knowing why you need ips, to now wanting a website for your "game server company", and you dont even know how to use paypal. And this is all after not knowing what Putty.exe is!

I'm starting to think this is a joke.

I mean seriously, you cannot possibly hope to run a successful company when you have no idea what your doing. Ever time a customer has a question or support need you cant just go and post here for the answer. You need to know ALL about the game servers your running, and you need to know alot more than your customer. It seems as though you havent read the thread which has all the questions people need to ask themselves/find the answers to before they become a "company". As Xtreme always says - there are too many people who have no idea what they are doing when they become a GSP, and this gives all the other gsp's a bad name. To be honest, you have no idea what you are doing, you dont have the budget to get started (if you cant afford the web site), and you are going to be too short on/reluctant to use the small amount of money you MAY make. I know im been a total ass here, but someone has to say it.

Just so you know I do not run a GSP now, but i did once, i had a very successful setup with quite a few clients. I had a custom web page built for me ($350USD), i made a game server control panel for people to manage their servers, i made an irc bot so people count get help, book hltv, and even order their servers from our channel. I planned EVERYTHING i knew everything i need to BEFORE i even started thinking the letters "GSP". I already had the knowledge on the games, the OS, and the support side of things. When i needed to include more games i hired staff who knew what to do with the as i didnt.

The only reason i failed was because the datacentre had massive networking difficulties, then decided they should re-wire the entire datacentre and then replace all the switches/routers. As you can imagine, nobody wants 4-5 hours downtime a day on their game server, and slow speeds for the rest of it.

see actually, I don't really have to worry becase one I have a friend that deals with computer and builds server. I'm trying to learn on my own. I don't want to spend $350 for a website just to know the business fail, you start up small and then u expand, i'm not rich as u to set forth $350 to build a template. I know how to install games on Windows system but not Linux that's y i'm asking. Sorry, for being an ass just like to put u on track.

Personal, I don't think template should be main concern for customers, it's how you service your customerson there purchase of the server, lag free, qiuck setup, affordable pricing, cheap, and your attitude toward your customers when they need help.

***BTW***
Admin: Think the thread should be lock before there might be more flaming .

Pease read this full post before replying. - including the link below.

Read this, Read all 2 pages of it. http://forums.servermatrix.com/viewtopic.php?t=6978

In there, you wil find some VERY important questions, you will also find a post by me with all the costs you are likely to encounter.

Im been quite serious here, I find these forums quite amusing, we have so many "im making a game server control panel" and then we have the "how do i use ssh" that turns into "im starting my own gsp!". I get a great laugh out of it, but i dont think the customers of these "gsp's" are going to find it all too amusing at all.

With having the money, let me put it this way. If you are starting a pizza shop, you will not be making profit right away until people hear of you and get to know your around, and that you make good pizza (assuming you do). The shop itself, with the rent is your server, you must pay a monthly fee to your land lord for the shop space (in our case, servermatrix). Then you need to buy your cooking gear, the tables/chairs, and decorations (website/software for your server). And now, you have no idea how to make a pizza, you know you need a pizza base (the OS) but you dont know how to make it (use it), and you know you need toppings on it (the game servers), but you have no idea how much toping to put on to make it a GOOD pizza. If someone asks for a peperoni (sp?) on pizza, you have no idea how much a good pizza needs.

You cannot start up a pizza business without the money behind you to get it started! You would not be able to afford the rent after 1 month, you would not be able to afford all the decorations, the tables, the chairs etc. People dont go startinga pizza shop with $100 out of their back pocket. The exact same principals apply here.

You dont know how to use the os - you dont know how to manage the game servers. How is a customer going to react when it takes you a long time to get back to them on simple questions. If a customer messes up their config and you need to fix it - how will you if you dont know your self.

You already have the attitude that you are not going to have a successful business, you already are saying "im not spending money on something that will fail" no matter how you word it thats exactly what you said. If you cannot get together the cash to make your company work. Why bother?

Dont take this the wrong way, but are you out of school yet? It doesnt matter to me if your not, i registered my web development business when i was in my final year - but i had been messing with that stuff for 2 years prior to it.

If your out of school, even if you have a job you might want to think about doing a night course on server administration, ie: linux administration. You may be better off going with windows tbh, there are alot more games supported on windows, and you said yourself you know how to use windows not linux. There is no use digging yourself deeper when there is no need, in linux a simple wrong file deleted or a single file getting modified wrongly, or a single command typed wrong can leave you needing an OS reload or tech support needing to get called in.

I have seen alot of people come and go on these forums, i have seen many new "companies" started then the people just disappear, and i have tried to help everyone i possibly can so they can succeed. Im trying to make you "see the light" here that a gsp is not something you jump into lightly. Apply real business practices to your company. Think what you would do if you were opening a computer store, or a news agent, or any business. Its not a simple matter of registering the domains, pulling out your - or your parents credit card, and setting up a website. That would be like paying your land lord for the shop front, then just starting up. First off its not legal to do that, and second off there is nothing planned out. Even the best planned business can fail - but its less likely to than one started on a whim.


eeep - and one last thing, Out of all my 1070 posts - only about 5 of them have been bitchy. this and the one above included. And they have always been when i have seen the same things too many times.

Q. Where do customers go to see your services?
A. Your Website.

Q. What do they do if it looks like crap and made by a 3year old?
A. Leave straight away without even looking at your services.

So you wont actually have any cutomers to service if you dont even have a good site.

You will need to understand how your customers would think and what attracts their attention. Attracting gamers is not the same as attracting corporate web site clients. Their perception, their expectations and needs are very different. Games of today are pretty Graphics intensive and the availability of cinemas seems to exists on almost any modern games. Companies are spending big budgets on making their game look pretty and as eye-catching as possible and there is a reason for that and that is to sell. I noticed that most game plays are pretty much the same, the FPS games are just that, see enemy shoot enemy and reach objectives. It seems the same for almost all FPS games, at least the core game is the same. What makes it different is the visual effects.

With that said and done, gamers are pretty awe by good visuals and good sound effects. So when you are selling game servers or game slots, you need to really portray that same visuals. If visuals are not important, we would be stuck with space invaders but that is not so, gamers are people who go ga-ga over the latest graphics card with the mega bits graphic processors and humougous RAMs. They are the one who forms the core of the overclockers because they are always trying to push the boundary of technologies one step further. All for good graphics and good effects.

If you cannot attract them, you will lose out in the business.

I think FarCry said what I and many others were afraid to say. In many posts various people have made jokes about people asking how to use rdc, then announce they want to be a GSP. In linux RDC=Putty.exe. Game server hosting is not a simple task, it requires massive amounts of knowledge of running game servers, lots of fallback money, and complete knowledge and control of the operating system you are running. Your not going to be able to start a successfull buisness untill you have all three. Reading your various posts on this forum, I'm not sure if you have any of them.

Being young doesn't have to be a setback in starting your own company, I started mine 12th year of high school, and been quite successfull. But, you have to be devoted to your task, being available for support whenever possible. Being young means you have to balance your schoolwork and game server support. Most of your free time is converted into server support time. If your in a gaming clan, you can just about forget that.

If you still do intend to start this buisness I strongly encourage you to use windows. You already know 70% of what you need in windows xp when you convert to 2000/2003 server.

Not trying to be harsh, just telling you how I see it.

That what happens when you download a free template from mtechnik, he makes some of the best templates and his site if very popular. I have seen the same template as well on many other sites as the one you use Allplay.

he has a new design now

Very well said FarCry, eddy2099, and allplay...

im still getting the old one, btw allplay are you gonna expand to the east coast with your servers?

New site is getting released with his new game server cp says he

Good posts Farcry I agree with you 100%.

To the thread starter: My advise to you would be save your money because in the end you will fail. I will bet on that.

we will see

i agree...if i had a dollar for every person i know that has tried to start a gsp and failed id be rich...after reading your posts man i worry about the people that might send you money...jeez :shock:

First your asking about a celeron then you ask this:

:shock:


my advise dude...is try in a couple years...this forum is full of wannabee gsp's that have 100 times more knowledge on the subject than you do...and there struggling...you got alot of learing before id start your buisness

If you know next to nothing about Linux then why host on it ? Yes, Linux can be stable but it can only get as good as the one managing it. If you are just a beginner than that would be reflected on your server. Server optimization would be a huge thing for a game server and if you do not know the first place to start, it can honestly be a bad thing for your unsuspecting customers who I really pity.

Guess who built both of them FarCry pwnz. Control panel in creation with features that would blow all wannabe's minds away.

Troy

I know you feel like all here are picking on you.

I suggest that you do one of 2 things.

1.
Hold off untill YOU have a firm grasp on what a GSP really is!!
Get a nice web site "cost $$"...it is your store front. Learn ALL about running the show. Do not allow or count on your buddy to do all the work.."cause he won't and if he drops out then what"...look at FragHQ !!!
This just happen to them and they were around fo a while.

2.
See #1.

People here see this all the time. Folks start web hosting or GSP's offer a dirt cheap price and fail..or run off with the money.

That leads to all of us who try to do this for a living a bad name.
When we see someone stating there starting a new company and have no clue as to what they are doing..it really torques us.

Make a Good Name for yourself !!! Know all about your biz and how to run it on your OWN ...specially if you are on a very tight budget.

How are you going to pay for your server? It takes time to get customers...months, if you do not have and advertising budget.


I hope the best for you and if you see the warter getting higher, before you jump ship send me your customers.. :shock:

thanks atleast u place it in a nice way ..

I just try to help where I can. Degrading/flamming does not help out a person.

I hate to see folks waste time, effort,money & customers.

Once you get in the swing of things you wil take a similar stance as we do...Honest.

Great that phpnuke site is heavy on security holes (being that I'm your host I know these things )




Btw I agree with everyone so far, we have had plans to open up something like this for months now but have pushed it back so I can learn how to do this I don't like stepping into things without knowing what to do, it's just bad for business .

I'll have to agree aswell.

LMAO matt, my site proved the security holes. Thats why its all our own html and everything now instad of nuke.

Yes btw I advise anyone who is running hosting to use mod_security it's must Yeah nuke tends to come with loads of security holes, I've found 20 new ones just sitting here today.

That picture the person put when they hacked it was pretty funny though, lol

dang lol, was hoping you didn't remember me. I seem to bug you to hell