thoroughfare
Mar 20 2004, 01:01 PM
Hi,
If you'd like ServerMatrix to offer DirectAdmin licenses, add your name to this thread
I'm first
Thanks,
Matt
SilveR
Mar 20 2004, 02:22 PM
Many server matrix resellers offer DA. Like us for example.
thoroughfare
Mar 21 2004, 11:22 AM

Where's the response huh?
I know you guys offer it... but SM don't
Matt
SilveR
Mar 21 2004, 03:55 PM
Maybe they choose not to offer it. It would just be another control panel to support.
eddy2099
Mar 21 2004, 03:59 PM
I guess so too. Having another control panel to support means that they need to train their technicans new stuffs since they are expected to know a whole lot more than their clients. I guess it is not as easy as just putting it up and expect you to run from there.
Alternatively you could opt for a server without control panel and either lease or purchase the DirectAdmin license directly for your machine. Then problem solved.

It is as simple as that.
I've gotten my Ensim Webppliance Pro license that way for a server here since they no longer offer Ensim. In the long run, it is way cheaper since I paid one time and I get to keep the license for life without paying anything recursive.
klaude
Mar 21 2004, 04:03 PM
I've never heard of it. Got a url?
eddy2099
Mar 21 2004, 04:10 PM
I believe it is
http://www.directadmin.com
Currently it seems that Directadmin is only supported on Redhat Linux 7.2 to 9.0 and nothing mentioned about other distribution or FreeBSD according to
http://www.directadmin.com/install.html
Trigger
Mar 21 2004, 05:17 PM
They have it working on 4.x but are still in beta stage with 5.x, so far apart from a few install problems which they seem to get past Ok it is pretty stable on freebsd 4.9.
Also due to the fact they are not making continual releases it is more stable than Cpanel and the developers are happy to discuss changes, the forum is quite open.
A very large and long standing data center provide it as part of a standard build no extra charges so for my vote Yes Please!
eddy2099
Mar 21 2004, 05:35 PM
Actually the $299 pricing looks extremely attractive. I might get it the next time I get a *nix server.
Jayy
Mar 21 2004, 07:06 PM
To me, that just looks like Cpanel with a different skin! Not to keen on the icons used either. Having said that, it's not bad, but would much rather see Plesk 7
thoroughfare
Mar 21 2004, 07:17 PM
QUOTE (Jayy)
To me, that just looks like Cpanel with a different skin! Not to keen on the icons used either. Having said that, it's not bad, but would much rather see Plesk 7

Ugh, guys guys guys....
see: www.directadmin.com
They currently support:
RedHat 7.2-9
FreeBSD 4.8-4.9
RHE is coming next, then probably Fedora and Debian (hooray!).
Check out the internal licensing page... SM could get it for less than $10/licence. I bought a lifetime licence that DirectAdmin were auctioning for promotion... I paid $129 for my control panel for life
It's a hell of control panel, and it will very soon give cPanel a run for its money. More secure, stable, and it's nice to admin. My customers like it a *lot* too.... even those transferring from cPanel servers.
Their support is excellent too.. personal replies within a couple of hours.
HTH,
Matt
thoroughfare
Mar 21 2004, 07:18 PM
PS The default skin is ugly but there are such much nicer skins available... e.g.
http://www.trushkin.net/images/da_persephone_user1.png
Matt
thoroughfare
Mar 21 2004, 07:20 PM
Did I mention it provides a seperate control panel for each domain name on an account to seperate them out, all under the same username/password? There's some really intuitive features. It has an API too. And you can use PHP in the skins.
Matt
eddy2099
Mar 21 2004, 07:23 PM
Where did it say it supports anything apart from Redhat 7.2, 7.3, 8 and 9 ? I saw this on their website
QUOTE
http://www.directadmin.com/install.html
Operating System:
Redhat Linux 7.2, Redhat Linux 7.3, Redhat Linux 8.0, or Redhat Linux 9.0. Available at:
http://www.redhat.com/.
And the $9/mth license is only applicable after the 19th license. It is still $14/mth for the first 19

. On the admin end, there might be calls for DirectAdmin but on the user end, they still want the completeness of Cpanel especially with those add-on scripts such as what they provide and through Fantasico.
thoroughfare
Mar 21 2004, 07:27 PM
thoroughfare
Mar 21 2004, 07:28 PM
UserExperience
Mar 22 2004, 01:23 PM
If the monthly price is right, then yes, DA should be added.
There is a complete manual online already (http://www.site-helper.com/) so support issues should be minimal.
It's not the best cp for power users because of some limitations, but users love it.
Also, beware, it's not foreign languages ready. Every messages that comes out of DA is in english.
toml
Mar 22 2004, 01:50 PM
There is some support for foreign languages by a few skin developers,
http://www.directadmin.com/forum/showthrea...20&pagenumber=1 is the one that I use. It supports foreign languages, but since I am in the US I only need the English one.
I have to say, I love Directadmin, especially with this skin, it makes everything available in a nice organized way. I have tried other control panels, before I started my own server, and have to say I like DirectAdmin the best. It may not do as much as cPanel or Plesk, but most of those features I never used anyway.
There are still a few features that are coming that will make it even better, such as a jailed ssh, and more OS's.
UserExperience
Mar 22 2004, 02:11 PM
Languages in skin is only the first step, but it doesn't work for people who don't understand english, because you'll always find some areas that cannot be translated and if people make a mistake the error message is in english only, so they won't be able to figure out what went wrong.
Anyways, that's a big hurdle for non-english speaking people, but DA has some great features for the rest of us.
Daejuan
Mar 30 2004, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (eddy2099)
Where did it say it supports anything apart from Redhat 7.2, 7.3, 8 and 9 ? I saw this on their website
QUOTE
http://www.directadmin.com/install.html
Operating System:
Redhat Linux 7.2, Redhat Linux 7.3, Redhat Linux 8.0, or Redhat Linux 9.0. Available at:
http://www.redhat.com/.
And the $9/mth license is only applicable after the 19th license. It is still $14/mth for the first 19

. On the admin end, there might be calls for DirectAdmin but on the user end, they still want the completeness of Cpanel especially with those add-on scripts such as what they provide and through Fantasico.
It's right there:
Operating System:
Redhat Linux 7.2, Redhat Linux 7.3, Redhat Linux 8.0, or Redhat Linux 9.0. Available at: http://www.redhat.com/.
FreeBSD 4.7, 4.8, 4.9
You can look on there forums also.
In my opinoin DirectAdmin is 10x better then cPanel, first of all, it's real easy to use & learn, it's actually
Stable(unlike cPanel who claims it has 'stable versions.) It has features that work, and aren't just big security holes. And it's low cost compared to cPanel, and Plesk, Ensim.
The only thing it needs is a skin, but like someone posted, you can get it for free.
DirectAdmin will be a real good edition.
Daejuan
Apr 5 2004, 05:52 PM
Also, they unofficially Fedora.
But very soon will official support both Fedora & RHE.
roundtable01
Apr 24 2004, 07:27 PM
Just what we all need..... More backwards developed crap, to spend our countless hours debugging just for it to add an email alias.
I have been dropping the so called "Control Panels" over time and switching to the GPL alternatives, and telling my clients if they want certain things like email aliases, and such to drop me a TT, or PM.
I spend just as much time answering an IM, or PM because they can't add a email user, as I would doing via command line.
With Cpanel & Ensim, I had some people who would be on a name-based hosting plan, and couldn't login to check their mail. Some would need to use
"username@domain.com" while others only needed "username".
All the lost time trying to figure out why, and I look like an idiot because when I email them with "Try this, and let me if it works for you."
SM, I vote for getting rid of em all.
[size=18]Time for all of you to learn basic command line
eddy2099
Apr 24 2004, 07:36 PM
The goal of Control Panels is to give the end user more control of how their accounts would be managed and freeing you time to do more important things. Without control panels means that you really need to be around 24/7, usually customers wants something done, they would have wanted it yesterday. Any hour spent waiting for you to answer the ticket and to set up even the smallest thing could bother them to a great extent.
Of course, that is if Control Panels work as they should. What is important is to evaluate a control panel fully, understand how it works inside out and then once you are familiar with it, use it and you will appreciate what it can do for you. Learning the basics of a control panel as you go along would not help since I realized that customers can be a rather impatient bunch. They wait till the last minute to do things then fuss about everything if it is not done at that time.
If you are charging enough to cover full support then fine but if you are offering budget pricing then it can be really unprofitable to spend all your 24/7 waking hours just doing simple things which could have been done by your clients.
roundtable01
Apr 25 2004, 09:28 AM
I would agree with you on how they are suppose to give the clients more control, if we were talking about "Reselling" clients. But your basic 1 website client who is just putting up a store front ad, or selling items via ecommerce isn't going to use 4/5 of the features that a Cpanel or Ensim provides.
eddy2099
Apr 25 2004, 09:35 AM
True, that's why the Control Panel options here is Optional. You get to select what you need and if you do not need it, you can opt not to have it installed. Unlike some other places which only have rebuilt servers and you do not have a choice.
I am pretty sure that SM has customers who have different needs and by providing all the options like different plans and different configuration within the plans, they could customized to their own requirement. If you run a web hosting service, the control panel would be useful. If you are running just one site then you could go without it if you know what you are doing. The choice is yours. Because you don't need them doesn't mean that others do not need them.
For me, I opted for no control panel because they did not have Ensim and I went ahead and purchase my own. No regrets there.
roundtable01
Apr 25 2004, 09:38 AM
eddy2099
Apr 25 2004, 09:43 AM
Nah, I just like the way Ensim manages my account. The license wasn't cheap but since I needed it, I had to get it, it sure beats having to set up those 17 accounts I have by hand.
FarCry
May 12 2004, 01:20 PM
www.two-a-t.com run www.hostauctioneer.com which do alot of DA auctions. Chuck was one of the first DA customers like me, sadly i dont have a linux server to use it for anymore. Its not hard to re-skin DA.
- I vote for it.
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