It looks like www.resellone.net launched today!

This looks like a amazing addition to EV1!

Nice...

Wonder if there is going to be an MB API

Are you able to login? Created username and password but then recieve only Error Invalid username/password given.

Ah... got the email.

Our staff will review your application and upon receipt of your contract will send instructions on how to make your first wire transfer payment.

One other note - it says usernames can be up to 20 characters, but it seems to reject them if they are that long.

I don't think they launched quite yet -- no prices on the page...

Well someone get the developers some caffeine and candy bars then

Nice, looks like it should be up soon if they have not completely uploaded it yet

I am really looking forward to the announcement regarding resellar rates for domains and SSL.

I hope (and pretty sure) they will be very good value. On the domain side hopefully at least competitive with enom if not better.

For the reasons I outlined in in this post in the other ResellOne thread in the Domain Registration forum, EV1 need, initially at least, to keep their price below Enom's $6.95 and Fabulous' $6.75. Keeping their price at $6.49, at least until the system has settled in and the benefits of their new features are more apparent, would prevent their current domain customers feeling bruised by the transition.

The new resell one platform runs on the HRS platform which will allow our clients to use a fully self branded API.

Our domain pricing, even at the highest level, is far below similar levels on most other systems. To qualify for the $6.50 price, simply have 500 ssl or domain transactions, or pre-pay for 500 domains. That level is about half of enoms.

Also, try buying SSL certs from anyoen else at the quality/price that the system offers,. Plus, it is a fully self branded solution.

Now, details will be coming out soon (after 5pm) on a rebate program for all new resellone.net accounts. It will include 100% rebates for 1 quick ssl, 10 rapidssl, 100 site builder accounts, and up to 1000 .info registrations. Try finding that anywhere else. (not gonna happen)

It is a great platform. At $6.50 for a .com, it cost you less to buy from us than to run your own platform and reseller tag.

Details will follow. We're just putting the t's and c
's on the rebate agreement.

Robert

That is what I like to hear!

EV1 rocks it out again!

The price is good, I guess no-one's going to complain about a 1c price rise!

Bit worried, though, about any platform designed by Tucows, the SRS one was a frustrating waste of time but, from reading the FAQ, it seems this HRS one is going to be better for bulk management.

Will you guys be setting up any sort of demo to allow us to check out the interface before taking the $3250 plunge?

Also, will we be able to fund our accounts via credit card or will it be wire only?

If you read the agreement their will be a wire transfer option and check option, as well as credit card, but I am not possitive, but I assume they would charge the normal 3% or so for using credit card.

Thanks Rodney, well spotted, I had read the FAQ but not the agreements.

The agreement PDF mentions another PDF outlining cc payments, http://resellone.net/agreements/ccpayment.pdf, but that doesn't exist yet, hopefully it will appear when they launch ResellOne this evening.

Ya i wasnt sure if this was all suppose to be up, but i posted anyways, I think I was the first to post the new site last month, so might as well repeat myself!

It's been a while since I checked so I could be mistaken, but I believe they're very similar, although HRS is obviously geared toward resellers.

Sounds (and looks) pretty good, but I'm a little concerned to say the least to hear that this is built on a similar platform as the old EV1 domain registration system that for reasons still unknown had to be taken offline for over a year now??? Is this true? Are you absolutely sure that whatever serious issues plagued the old system behind the scenes making it impossible to continue with will not be a problem with the new system?

What exactly are you looking at, Jeff? I can't find a demo of the actual registration GUI.

I'd like to echo this concern; the OpenSRS system was so bad, so needlessly awful from a user perspective, that we have to be absolutely certain that this OpenHRS thing is an entirely different beast.

Tucows OpenSRS was one of the first geared towards resellers and from the looks of it, they haven't changed much since the 90's. But back then it was way cool.

We got an email from someone at EV1 about this a few weeks back.. .asking if we wanted an account setup before it was launched... Replied that we were very interested... now it seems to have been launched without anyone following up on that email... interesting.

Assume we're not the only ones.... why bother offering preview accounts it just gets launched without the opportunity. An anti-climax for me already.

Robert,

The site doesnt seem to mention the 10 free rapid ssl's even though the PDF does. Probably worth adding it to the site as the free rapid ssl's included in the $99 signup is a real seller.

I think the demo thing is essential, I trust ev1servers as I am a long term customer, however I wouldn't pay $3250 or even $1000 in advance without seeing how the system works and if it can really suit my needs.

I also don't think not ev1 customers will easily subscribe at these conditions to a new service (without any testimonial) with no demo at all.

Please provide us a live demo at least of the registration API in order to allow us to test the new system, you would have much more subscribers this way, me included...

Thanks.

Site is still being fully updated with launch info. There are a couple of mistakes, one of them the one that you mention of the 10 free RapidSSL.

I'd risk a $99 setup fee any day of the week for the rebate freebies - even just the one free Quick SSl has a higher retail value.

We will soon be raising our retail prices for domains and ssl even higher so as not to directly compete with our resellers. We want any existing domain client to be able to get into the new system as easily as possible. We also want them to resell our ssl products and site builder. That's the reason for the packages that we are offering.

The rebate offer gives anyone taking us up on the offer a definite advantage in the marketplace.

Plus, with the $29 offer as well, the one free quickssl has more value than the package price itself.

The words "no brainer" certainly come to mind.

The site mainly mentions US cheques, or telegraphic transfers, is there definately going to be a method to add credits via credit card?

HS,

Since you are not offering any 'instant' payment methods will there be sufficient time before you raise the EV1 prices for resellers to get into the new system?

all sounds a bit complicated and ott tbh. Besides the dodgy credit card system it worked fine, sensibly priced domains and a good control panel, now for some reason I find I have to pony up 100 dollars setup fee if I wish to remain a customer? not bleedin likely, and I have to wire transfer funds at additional cost? I wouldnt mind 'topping up' my account like I used to at enom in 100 dollar lots but Im a bit dissappointed at how the current system seems to discriminate against those who run 10-30 domains.
I personally dont have any use for a ssl cert or anything similar on offer. I just wanted to continue as I had done before (hopefully with the added ability to use visa cards) but it appears I dont figure in your business plan.

Agreed - the $1000 deposit or $100 setup fee plus having to buy 500 domains to get to the level we were at yesterday is a bit much for the little guys I have 75 domains total, so it will take me a while to get 500 to get... back to where you started... as they say...

I can see why EV1 wants the big fish, but it would be nice if they made it a little easier for us little guys to keep getting the same good deal we've become accustomed to as well.

I think this new openHRS system will be amazing! This will allow us who are currently just using a reseller to actually act like a real domain registrar which most companies cannot do unless you drop $100k or so to become ICANN accredited.

I'll try to be optimistic. Hope the new system will be so great that there won't be any small customers in no time and it will pay for itself for us all

exactly. I'm now faced with an incredibly simple choice, stump up 100 bucks or move everything to a company i used to use that offers domains for 7.99, if i had a few hundred domains i wouldnt mind so much but I guess Im not the kind of customer that figures in your business plan, more power to you if you believe your strong enough to do that. I doubt myself leaving would make even the slightest difference, a few thousand people with 10-30 domains might make a dent but such is life.

The real kick in the teeth is that, up until yesterday, we could pay using our Visa cards to pay for domains, albeit after submitting a fax of said card and photographic identification.

So far, the deal with the new system is that, to have the same price we had yesterday, we've got to lodge $3250. You would think that, with such large sums, EV1 would do us the courtesy of working out some sort of arrangement for those of us who prefer to skip retail (as opposed to cc) exchange rates - I mean, it's not like we're going to be nickel and diming them, paying for one or two domains at a time!

I'm also quite annoying at the way in which EV1 are selectively answering questions in the threads discussing this major change. Again, I would like to know if people buying into Tier 2 with $3250 or making an initial deposit of $1000, and thereby skipping the setup fee, are going to get the $99 rebate pack.

I admire your optimism Jeff. ;-) Of course everyone knows dom reg is a loss leader these days. Even if you appear to be an ICANN acredited registrar as opposed to a mere reseller as Rodney stated earlier in this thread (legalities aside), are you going to compete with Go Daddy, etc.?

What's the ETA on that demo Robert? I'm surprised anyone would consider signing-up w/o seeing it.

Demo is certainly needed. The system needs to prove itself for that type of investment.

Can you explain what you mean by "that type of investment"? I've been looking all over the ResellOne.net site and the signup promotions and it looks like even for the biggest setup fee (for the major promotion) you're looking at only a $100 setup fee.

http://resellone.net/prices.aspx

*$100.00 setup, or a $1,000 deposit.

I think many of us prefer the $1000 deposit (investment) to the $100 setup fee (gone) -- but $1000 is obviously an "investment" not to be spent without careful consideration for the smaller customers among us.

and then to get to the $6.49 price we have now:
**After selling 500 products, excluding Website Builder.
500 x $7.00 = $3500 to get to the $6.50 level to compete with domains.ev1servers.net tucows reseller service is what was going through my mind.

Ok. One final change based upon feedback.

All signups between now and October 31 (signed contract and account funded with at least $100 in addition to the setup fee) .... by existing and active domain and server clients only (those clients with domains and at least one server active at EV1 at least 3 months) will automatically qualify for Tier 2 pricing.

This will be added to the site Monday.

We have priced the products at the lowest possible margin going forward. Domains must be structured to be a revenue neutral product line, not a loser. I'll not bore you with the math, but $6.50, with us bearing credit card processing risk and expense, is a long term loser. It only makes sense when we have no credit card processing expense or risk.

Wires may represent an inconvenience, but with a $6.50 price, and the possibility of up to $2000+ In free products, it seems like one that I would not mind.

Robert

Can you clarify whether people who deposit $1000 will get the promotional certs and .info etc?

Demos - we are discussing how to provide demos for the site builder as well as the openhrs system. It will probably be a couple of weeks before demos are available. I am sure that we'll provide some screen shots prior to that.

Great! I hope we can see something prior to the 10/31 tier 2 discount deadline.

Just to clarify, it seems like theres going to be two options for us long term EV1 customers:

1) $100 signup fee plus $100 deposit. Total cost of $200, with half of that being lost. Immediate Tier 2

2) $1000 deposit. Total cost of $1000, nothing being lost. Immediate Tier 2.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Thanks HeadSurfer! Sorry if we expect a heck of a lot from EV1 now! But you've spoiled us with great systems PLUS great prices for years, so what's done is done

Cant wait to see a demo.

I need some convincing to move around 2000 domain registrations away from the current enom system (nice and simple, great interface, no large upfront setup fee's and just a 45 cents a domain more, not to mention proven).

Just some screenshots would be good if these could be done and posted to this thread maybe? re-assure some of us

Yes, a live demo would be great, but even some screenshots and some documentation would be useful.

A further consideration is the promotional offer.

We know that people in group 1 will lose $100 but gain 1 QuickSSL, 10 RapidSSL, 10 Starter Website Builder, Accounts, 100 Personal Website Builders and 1000 .INFO Domain Registrations.

No-one has any idea if people in group 2, depositing $1000, will get the promotional package.

It would be really great if someone from EV1 could clarify this.

Being a long-time EV1 customer, if I get auto Tier-II with $100 fee or $1000 deposit, I can definitely get behind that, otherwise it's not seeming like an EV1 kind of offer that I have come to love!

I will be getting behind the tierII pricing as soon as I can see a demo of this software and find out well it integrates in with modernbill...otherwise I will just stick with what I got now.

Well I guess I am lost here ..... :confused:
So now I have close to 30 domains at EV1 to keep using EV1 I have to pay a setup fee of $100 dollars plus a deposit of $100?

We sale maybe 3-5 domains a year mostly as a service to clients that want us to handle all of there web needs. Now I do not mind paying a higher price like the ones I have seen so far but I have seen where setup fees and no prepaid deposits are all over the net and only for a dollar or so more then EV1 is offering with a huge deposit.

So what happens to those of us that have domains registered at EV1? are we going to have to find some place else to register those domains when they are up for renewal?
What about the SSl certs we have bought up to this point? those prices are going to increase as well (we have only bought 3-4 of those over the years).

As I see it those of us that have been loyal to EV1 and spent all of our money that was required by clients needs are now just screwed unless we are willing to fork out big dollars for what once was a good deal.

Should have known that the great prices and great service couldn't last for long. Oh well back to the planning table we go to find where the best deals that fit our small budget .....
Thanks for the great deals up till now EV1 and I really do mean Thank you your services have been a great help up till now.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, there is also a $29 entry point until October 31st - http://resellone.net/promotions/grandopeningoffer.pdf

Will this be available with either of the $29/$99 rebate promotions?

And is there any information on how we will handle transferring our ev1 domains to resellerone?