aussie
Mar 17 2005, 04:27 PM
I been reading various articles and forums regarding VPS. Seems like there are many who are very unhappy with the speed of their sites on these VPS boxes. I'd really like to know for sure as I am ready to deploy a number of VPS account to some of my clients who dont want to go the dedicated route.
VPS with Plesk Reloaded. Is the problem Plesk? What other alternates are there? On the EV1 VPS servers how many sites are we actually talking about? If these boxes have been partitioned to handle 10 VPS accounts each with 100 sites, well 1,000 sites on one server is far too many in my opinion.
Can EV1 guarantee no overloaded boxes? Howabout 5 VPS accounts per box? I cant see become too popular if these boxes are overcrowded. If i ask EV1 will they tell me truth about the number of site currently active on a particular box?
For those of you who own your own servers, well you have total control over this however the others dont.
Thank you.
Gary Simat
Mar 17 2005, 04:28 PM
It all depends on how many VPS's are on one virtuozzo server and the configuration of the virtuozzo server. If the server is not overbooked i find it runs pretty nicely. I have about 20 VPS clients currently and is all running nicely on my virtuozzo server.
GetWired
Mar 18 2005, 12:17 PM
It's a memory hog too.
rodney.giles
Mar 18 2005, 04:23 PM
I only have 512mb ram, and I got 4 vps's full. I need more ram soon.
aussie
Mar 18 2005, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (GetWired)
It's a memory hog too.

Sad to hear that.
Anyone know whats up with the demo?
http://plesk7r.demo.sw-soft.com:8443/
Does'nt work for me.
Also, i emailed these
loosers at Plesk about illegial keys i found on the net regarding Plesk7 Reloaded. The key registers Plesk7 Reloaded and gives one installation unlimited user license, and guess what! The loosing Plesk team failed to respond to my email!!! :confused:
Don't email me or PM me for this information as i will not give it out but its interesting that Plesk doesn't care. I try to do the good of the community but they dont want seem to know about it!
So if people want to hack their stupid control panel and get away with it, then be it! It's one thing to be warned about it, when i emailed them, yes I was willing to give them the full URL to the offenders, but Plesk couldn't even be bothered to reply. So im changing my mind about VPS and Plesk's support since i think that if I get involed with their Panel i could expect zero support from them when i need it.
Bunch of no hopers as we say Down Under!
Remember when Rackshack (EV!) dropped and stopped offering Plesk some years back? Well they should have left it that way!
Gary Simat
Mar 18 2005, 10:12 PM
QUOTE (GetWired)
It's a memory hog too.

well i opted for ddx with the upgrade and also did a 1gb upgrade on ram after that. so im sitting at 2 gigs of ram, i have 20 vps's running smoothly on this. i noticed the first gig of ram gets used the fastest. after that it doesnt use much at all depending how you have your ram allocated...
jeff-p4
Apr 1 2005, 11:54 PM
I have one of the early EV1 VPS offerings, and it's great for secondary DNS and some small test sites, but I don't think I'd host a real site on it vs. hosting a few sites on a $99 server. First the VPS has resource limits, like the number of disk inodes available that for example prevents me from untarring a backup file from my main server. Second, it often feels a little luggy compared to a dedicated server... e.g. you have to wait a few seconds for a file to open in a text editor or to change driectories or to do an ls -al command whereas these things are always instant on my dedicated servers. But as a test/backup/secondary dns server, the vps is a great option. No substitute for a real server in my view though.
Gary Simat
Apr 2 2005, 12:58 AM
ya but there cheap. i offer them for 20$ and alot of people have a use for them rather then a full blown server
RBohm
Apr 2 2005, 01:02 PM
We've found too that the sites on a VPS load slower, and seem sluggish. This isn't due to an overcrowded server however, as it is occurring on a new Virtuozzo server with only one site on it as well. Carlos helped tweak it out, but it doesn't seem to matter, it's still slow.
We are considering dropping VPS packages completely, and reimaging to cpanel, as that appears to be what clients want. 80% of the hosting requests are for cpanel, and the rest are inquiries on Ensim, DirectAdmin, Plesk, or Windows offerings. Ensim leads those by far as well.
madsere
Apr 2 2005, 08:54 PM
I'm surprised you see such a demand for Cpanel. I never have had a single request for it. Never. I work with both Ensim, Plesk and Cpanel and must say I don't understand what the exitement of Cpanel. The design is old-fashioned and shows it's age and history (that most things it has today has been bolted onto it down the road).
With the VPS we've had quite a few customers moving from Ensim reseller accounts into VPS' with Plesk and they have all without exception been very positive about Plesk.
Of course if you try to load 1000's of sites onto one server you get a problem, but hardware is cheap. We would never put more than ~200 sites on one Dual Xeon with 2GB RAM. There's still a good profit, no need to be greedy
RBohm
Apr 2 2005, 09:28 PM
I think the demand for cpanel (at least with us) is because of referrals. Most of our new clients come from existing clients who like the ease and control they have with cpanel, and have relayed that to others. We don't advertise much on the web, because we have found a niche market that has paid off well, so our percentages may not be the norm for other hosts. And again, we have resellers who prefer that because of it's ease of use.
Our Ensim clients are die hard fans, and wouldn't switch to cpanel if they were paid, and to me at least, it's more secure. We started off with Ensim (under a different label) back with the 2.x series. The requests for cpanel were crazy, so we moved to EV1 for cpanel servers. (previously with DedNow)
Both cpanel and ensim forums are great support channels, but cpanel has a faster ticket support response as far as my experience has been, and I like being able to update without fear of breaking anything before a patch is released.
I would probably see more on the Ensim request side if that were our main focus, but it's not at this time.
Never had a request for cpanel? Wow... amazing. I agree that many things are an afterthought, but it has matured a lot, and I am sure it will continue to. I just wish Ensim would be less "ensimized" as well.
jeff-p4
Apr 2 2005, 11:22 PM
QUOTE
I'm surprised you see such a demand for Cpanel. I never have had a single request for it. Never. I work with both Ensim, Plesk and Cpanel and must say I don't understand what the exitement of Cpanel. The design is old-fashioned and shows it's age and history (that most things it has today has been bolted onto it down the road).
I switched from Ensim to Cpanel and love Cpanel. I also got Plesk for free on my VPS and deleted it because it just didn't compare to cpanel for my needs. I like cpanel because it's simpler to maintain than ensim was for me (used ensim for 2 years), easier to customize, and offers faster one-click access to the functions I need than either ensim or plesk, both from a system administration point of view (though I usually do what I need through ssh alone, cpanel has flexible built-in backup and restore options, a free dns-only cpanel version for automatic secondary dns, clustering, easy build apache, etc) and from a client standpoint (e.g. add on domains, subdomains, multiple stats options, mysql and ftp accounts, etc.) I like that cpanel is a thinner interface to the underlying scripts rather than a heavier more bloated control panel that forces me to work the way the particular control panel works. I've been much much happier so far with cpanel this last year than I ever was with Ensim.
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