budwaiser
Feb 22 2005, 10:51 AM
Hi,
i'm looking for a Windows Server 2003 with Helm. I'm interesting about Pentium IV 3.06 Ghz and Xeon 2.4 Ghz.
My questions are:
1)Can i do backup on the second Hd or it's more secure buying a backup solutions? What's your opinion?
2)Can you suggest some links where i can see patch upgrades for each application installed on my dedicated? (as dns, ftp, helm, and so on).
Thank you
Budwaiser
ravio
Feb 22 2005, 11:24 AM
You can set Windows to mirror the main HD to your second HD. This being a backup solution... However think what happens if the server starts on fire

a little extreme in a DC but you never know some wild static electricity or something...
budwaiser
Feb 22 2005, 11:34 AM
So what do you suggest me?
In whixh way i can set Windows to mirror the main HD to my second HD?
Please help
Tex
Feb 22 2005, 11:46 AM
off site backup is always the best way to go
ravio
Feb 22 2005, 11:48 AM
It really is up to you on the backup solution... And what you tell your clients if that is what you are doing...
If data is a big deal I would get a backup solution from ev1... this way you know the data is safe.
I would guess 99.8 times out of 100 you would not have a problem with the mirror system however my luck would be that .2% lol.
There are other data risks such as hackers as well...
Most hosting companies say that the backup of the clients data is up to the client... However you still run into the issue of re-creating all of the accounts, settings and what else is needed to bring that client back to normal.
If you have the money pay for the ev1 backup... if not... backup to your own PC as much as you can.
CornFused
Feb 22 2005, 07:09 PM
Helm is a bastard to recover from any backup. Do RAID.
budwaiser
Feb 23 2005, 09:58 AM
So which solution do you suggest me? I'm a novice here :-(
CornFused
Feb 23 2005, 07:47 PM
QUOTE
Originally posted by budwaiser
So which solution do you suggest me? I'm a novice here :-(
The in machine drive is always best, because it is quick and efficient. I take it you are protecting against a drive failure.
99.995% of the time an in mahine drive is secure. I'm not one of these paranoid dudes that worries about the other 0.005% of stuff. If I did, I would never leave my house.
A word to the wise. If you haven't ever practiced a backup routine, it is worthless. There are hundereds of people with a false sense of security thinking that becaue they are copying a few files here and there that they can actually do a restore.
Restoring seperates the men from the boys.
Rent a low end machine and distroy it a few times. Then get the dual Xeon.
gpan
Feb 28 2005, 08:44 AM
There are high end/costly snapshot solutions out there - you may want to check them if they are within your budget, i.e. Columbia's PSM product.
omnibus
Jul 7 2005, 05:03 AM
QUOTE (CornFused)
Helm is a bastard to recover from any backup. Do RAID.
What do you mean? Is Helm backup secure and affordable? I think to do backups on second drive, then trasfer all to another location.
Thx.
CornFused
Jul 7 2005, 09:40 AM
There's been a long evolution in the backup/restore of Helm. WHAL is making great progress now. In the early days, it wasn't quite so easy.
omnibus
Jul 7 2005, 12:18 PM
May you confirm now it's easy and, above all... reliable?
Vinnie Pasetta
Jul 7 2005, 04:51 PM
There is a new restore tool in Helm 3.2.4 and if you combine that with an offsite ftp back up, you should be in pretty good shape.
Of course, hardware RAID is always best.
steve248
Jul 24 2005, 03:57 PM
To be honest the best solution is to mirror the main HDD and then backup to remote FTP as well.
Both solutions are pretty cheap so there isnt really a reason not to do it. If a HD fails you are back up and running within an hour ish, if you lose both HD's then restore from FTP, this will take a while, I havent had to do it, not many have (I hope)...
omnibus
Jul 28 2005, 03:35 AM
After this discussion I'm tring a new Helm server but the first impression is not so good. Coming from an Ensim server (both Linux and Win) I'm very disoriented from what an user is and what an user can do. Why he can create packages? My situation is I don't need Reseller, I wish only create domains under my Admin panel as for Ensim. I've tried to do by Reselles side but at the end I have to create Packages... why is it necessary?
Sorry about the questions but I wish to be sure this is my solution.
Thank you vey much.
CornFused
Jul 28 2005, 10:17 AM
QUOTE (omnibus)
After this discussion I'm tring a new Helm server but the first impression is not so good. Coming from an Ensim server (both Linux and Win) I'm very disoriented from what an user is and what an user can do. Why he can create packages? My situation is I don't need Reseller, I wish only create domains under my Admin panel as for Ensim. I've tried to do by Reselles side but at the end I have to create Packages... why is it necessary?
Sorry about the questions but I wish to be sure this is my solution.
Thank you vey much.
Helm is a different scheme.
1.) Admin can only have resellers. Admin can NEVER hold domains.
2.) Resellers can only have customers. Resellers can NEVER hold domains.
3.) Customers hold domains.
You will have to create a reseller under admin, then create a customer, then under that customer account you will be able to add domains, subscribe to packages, etc.
omnibus
Jul 28 2005, 10:55 AM
QUOTE (CornFused)
You will have to create a reseller under admin, then create a customer, then under that customer account you will be able to add domains, subscribe to packages, etc.
At the end I've understood this... but now the main question is:
why customers can add packages while they haven't credits to do it and above all they can delete domains from their panel??? This could disorient clients...
I wish to give to my clients a control panel to add their proper email account, read stats and so on...
Thank you.
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