Q. Why sign up for Ensim Ignite?

A. By deploying Ensim Ignite, you will have the ability to be more competitive with the larger hosting service providers who are catering to the large SMB market. With Ensim Ignite, you'll also achieve the following benefits:

• Increase revenues by offering attractive services such as e-mail marketing, site optimization, payment gateway and site security.
• Protect your customer base by effectively competing against the big guys while preserving your superior customer relationships
• Attract more customers by offering small and medium-size businesses services they crave
• Deploy new services, risk free, with no upfront costs!
• Improve profitability by increasing revenue without having to negotiate term with partners, develop marketing materials or support the new services.
• Do little or no work - Ensim has done the research, negotiated the contracts and even put the marketing tools together for you to use
• Gain access to pre-built marketing materials developed by a professional marketing organization; use them "as is" or customize them with your organization's look and feel
• Get a free e-mail marketing account* with Roving, valued at $600 per year
• Increase customer satisfaction by adding compelling end-user services
• There's no cost to you as Ensim Ignite is free!

P.S. Did I mention you don't have to be an Ensim customer to sign up and use the service?

I saw that at the Ensim site yesterday, but I didn't see the FREE part. Very intriguing, so I signed up. Said it would be 1-2 business days before I would get another email with my login info.

Sound all well and good, but all the hype is, in reality, quite vague. Except for the fact that Ignite will get you an account with the roving.com / constant contact spamhaus ( http://spews.org/html/S1641.html), there is nothing at all of substance in the Ensim ads for this thing.

I'd be interested in hearing some details from anyone who signs up.

-B

Yeah right now its all just marketing drivel. I figured the best way to get more info is to sign up.

I think it's pretty clear if you read their site. They're giving hosting companies the ability to offer services (4 at this time) that they don't have to manage or anything and they get paid. So it allows the hosting company to expand their service offering overnight with little effort.

• e-mail marketing = roving.com account allowing you to send targeted emails to your exisiting clients and such to market new services.
• site optimization = a way for your client to optimize and market their site in a nonoffensive, professional way which many startup companies struggle with on the net and thus turn to spam, etc.
• payment gateway = merchant services that you can offer to your clients and get paid for every payment they collect while showing your clients you are looking for ways to help them succeeed online
• site security = digital certificates that you can offer your clients to secure their site for commerce on the net.

To me they are offering a way for me to get paid for services I don't have to manage while making me look good to my clients.

Frankly, I'd prefer to see Ensim focus on perfecting the product they already have before branching out into the realm of marketing, SEO and SSL certs. Next they'll be selling domain name registration for $5.

While I understand what you're saying, I would also like to point out that many times people forget that in a software development company there are different teams that handle different types of projects. I highly doubt that this new service in any way affects the performance of the webppliance product line and their project timelines, etc.

Yes, of course. However, I still say Ensim should devote all assets to improving and perhaps expanding their main product before diversifying with such gimmicks.

Hummmm, this seems strangely familiar......

I don't mean to be offensive, but I won't help my customers get more marketing information

sounds like selling them out to (even more) spam (than they're getting already) for a few bucks

regards

That's what I was thinking. Plus Verisign and Roving! Somebody wake me from this bad dream.

I signed up, had a look.. Cant say i will go any further.
Its basically an affiliate program.

Yep, that's the size of it. Preinstalled affiliate program with 2 companies most of us avoid like the plague (Verisign & Roving). Bill Gates would be pleased.

Exactly.

It get's Ensim bownie points with their partners.

I wouldn't do business with Verisign again under ANY circumstances. They have the worst customer service in the industry!

Optimization - another joke.

Completely worthless!

Same old crap! Get rich with newsletters and get thousands of visitors!

Thanks but I'll pass!

AMEN BROTHER! I wonder if market share has hurt them so bad that they are scrambling to create additional streams of revenue.

All they have to do is build a kick - butt stable CP... and they wouldn't be tinkering with this trash!

Verisign????? Get that crap as far away from me as possible!

Here here!

Verisign == walk the other way; this seems like an attempt by them to start regaining some of the small business customers they have lost over the years. I can't blame them for doing that, they are a business after all, but I won't support them .. they and Thawte were both a pain to deal with, even in the days when SSL certs didn't cost a bazillion dollars .

*was dup of my first post*

Yikes .. sorry for the duplicate post. Moderator, please delete.

*was yet another dup of my first post*

And the triple post ... my apologies. Please delete

We've got several customers with Ensim and while it's a pain to manage if the servers are overloaded, they seem to do just fine with around two hundred domains.

When you go over 500, it gets terrible.

Roj

Actually, Verisign = 666, Roving = walk the other way, and Thawte = I don't think so (I know, Thawte hasn't been Ignited, yet).

This Ignite project makes me wonder whether Ensim has a clue who their customer base is? It's strictly amateur hour and an insult to our intelligence.

P.S. Somebody lend Roj a compass.

http://forums.ev1servers.net/showthread.ph...&threadid=45447