And the crowd goes wild...

http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/...&tid=190&tid=99

(begins rambling)

With any luck, it'll be released on time, and then Fedora Core 2 will be released by mid-spring next year, and then all the CP vendors will support it, and then... well... zooooooooooooooooom!

For those of you wondering why this is so important - Linux v2.6 includes huge performance improvements over Linux v2.4, especially in areas related to enterprise/server stuff - common network/socket operations and frequently-used webserver operations like fork().
There's also better HT support for those of us on Dual Xeon boxes.

There was a thread with a link to performance comparisions here - but I can't find it right now.

still alot of missing features in 2.6 such as ATARAID among other things

Linux 2.6
Fedora

It claimed a performance up to 30x in reading hard disk operations with the "Anticipatory I/O Scheduler".

See:
<http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/r/antsched/antio.html>

Regards,
Netino

I like Fedora - I'd rather have PHP be upgraded from PHP v4.2.2 to v4.3.3 than have security fixes backported into v4.2.2.

Both versions are considered stable - but v4.2.2 is old and obselete.

No one is keeping you on 4.2.2... Even Ensim has announced that they'll have a product out by year's end to remove dependence on "ensimized" packages.

I like the sound of stable write support on NTFS volumes

And RH does support ATA-RAID... I've got it on MANY boxes.

I mean as far as 'official' packages go.

GPan's packages are nice - but an official upgrade is always better.

Are you still on Ensim 3.1? Ensim Pro already supports PHP 4.3.3 natively and as mentioned before, very soon Ensim will be releasing its Fedora release which de-ensimizes most packages to allow you to upgrade to whatever version you want.

ATA-RAID is a kernel-build dependant feature.

2.4.* has ata-raid modules that you can compile into the kernel, which is what redhat and alot of other nix os's use.

i am currently running gentoo on 2.4.22 simply because kernels 2.5 or 2.6 dont currently have any ATARAID support, and since the code is frozen in 2.6, there's no likelihood of it being introduced.

I am waiting anxiously for 2.6 to be released and the testing to begin. Hopefully try it out on a debian and redhat box soon enough.

I have talked with a few people running 2.6 and they all seem to have only good stuff to say about it, of course with that much testing it usually is pretty good!

X.X

I'm on Ensim Pro 3.5, and I know it supports PHP 4.3.3.

The point I'm trying to make is not whether Ensim supports it, its that Fedora isn't the bleeding edge mother of all evil.

Its upgrades are small version increments... it doesn't use PHP5 - a bleeding edge beta release, but rather PHP 4.3.3 with an upgrade to PHP 4.3.4, stable and supported versions of software.
Whereas if this was really RH10 - it would stick with PHP 4.3.3 for a year until RH 11 came out.

Guys,

No one said, but the kernel 2.6 is *ready* for 32-way for production machines?
See item 1:
http://www.osdl.org/newsroom/press_release..._beaverton.html

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BEAVERTON, Ore - October 27, 2003 - The Open Source Development Labs (OSDL), a global consortium of leading technology companies dedicated to accelerating the adoption of Linux, today announced the release of a new 2.6 Linux test kernel version from Linux creator Linus Torvalds and 2.6 kernel maintainer Andrew Morton that is ready for enterprise testing.

The software release - available on the Web at www.kernel.org or ftp.kernel.org - is called the test9 release version of the Linux 2.6 kernel. It is a significant milestone in the development of the final production version of the new 2.6 Linux kernel. OSDL is calling on major Linux customers, independent software vendors (ISVs) and leading systems providers to target the test9 release version for testing, validation and enhancement to prepare for the next production release of Linux.

Among the major improvements in the new 2.6 kernel compared to the current production 2.4 Linux kernel released in January 2001 are:

1. Improved scalability. It has been tested on up to 64-way systems. It is ready for production use on 32-way machines. Added new CPU scheduler, memory management and file system code. Supports up to 64Gb of memory on IA-32 systems.
2. Faster threading. New Native Posix Thread Library for Linux (NPTL) results in test times on 100,000 threads reduced from 15 minutes to 2 seconds for significantly faster system performance under heavy loads.
3. Enhanced driver layer. I/O devices such as disks perform better and are easier to manage. New features include: Logical Volume Management (LVM), sysfs, device mapper, reduced lock contention.
4. Support for many more embedded device applications. uClinux integration brings new support for low-cost, low-power CPUs without memory management units which are commonly used in embedded devices.
5. Improved desktop features. Hot plug devices, including firewire and USB, are dramatically improved. Mouse, video, and sound are smoother and perform better. New Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) brings professional music-studio quality audio.
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Regards,
Netino

What do you do when a web site on the server uses a third party script that hasn't yet been updated to work correctly with changes in php 4.3.3? Hold off and leave your server vulnerable but the web site in question working? Or break the web site in question until the script in use is updated? Or ???