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| Console - what's the point of it??? |
 Dec 4 2004, 10:01 PM
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Just upgraded the kernel and thought i'd try out the console facitity. Logged ontop the server with it and then in another terminal (SSH) i rebooted. The console got partway through the shutdown message and froze.
The console was not able to be logged into till the server came back up. So it seems that the console is just a very slow SSH. I thought I'd be able to see the shutdown and startup process just like the server was in front of me. At the current time i can't figure out why it was installed???? Am i missing something???? -------------------- Michael
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Dec 4 2004, 11:15 PM
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ur pretty much right. it is a slow ssh. however this is not a service running on the box. it is the actual console as if you were at the box. it is very helpfull if your box died and would come up without ssh for some reason...
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Dec 5 2004, 08:36 AM
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Yeah I find the DRAC cards are much more useful for kernel trouble and such. The bing thing about the console card is if you have ssh trouble, firewall trouble, or your server is getting DDOS and there is not enough bandwidth.
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Dec 5 2004, 08:44 AM
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SuperGeek Group: Members Posts: 1,718 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 11,893 |
yea i use the drac on occasions
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Dec 6 2004, 08:46 PM
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I like the fact that if I mess up a kernel update I can login to DRAC and select which kernel to boot into. Also I have access to the system bios and SCSI bios, etc. via DRAC, plus temperature and voltage sensors for the server.
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Dec 7 2004, 10:37 AM
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SuperGeek  Group: Admin Posts: 1,431 Joined: 31-August 01 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 234 |
We offer Remote KVM access for the type of connectivity mentioned earlier in this thread.
Remote Console is great in cases where the primary network connection is down, the box has been unplugged due to AUP/TOS issues or a firewall setting has locked you out of your server. Its there as a "just in case" option. Not bad for free, if you ask me 
For the serious server confirguration issues that require access to the boot screen and such, just let us know that you need KVM access for a day. -------------------- Thank you,
Aaron Conklin Product Manager - Complex Infrastructure |
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Dec 7 2004, 02:05 PM
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SuperGeek Group: Members Posts: 1,012 Joined: 7-April 02 Member No.: 1,958 |
QUOTE Originally posted by WebSales_Aaron
Maybe you should put it's uses into the console FAQ. People won't appreciate it if they don't know how to use it. I, for one, didn't know the uses you've stated. I now agree, it'a handy thing to have.
Remote Console is great in cases where the primary network connection is down, the box has been unplugged due to AUP/TOS issues or a firewall setting has locked you out of your server. -------------------- Michael
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Dec 7 2004, 02:41 PM
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SuperGeek Group: Admin Posts: 1,431 Joined: 31-August 01 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 234 |
FAQ updated, thanks for the recommendation.
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Dec 7 2004, 05:10 PM
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SuperGeek Group: Members Posts: 4,850 Joined: 23-May 03 Member No.: 7,754 |
I never knew/thought about the TOS/AUP part, thats really big. I have not had trouble in a long time but if I ever did it would be VERY nice to have some sort of access to the server. I have seen many people have their server taken down and cannot do anything to check how it was hacked, now atleast we can go in and look at it and make sure it really was. Thanks for the info and great idea to update the faq.
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Dec 7 2004, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE Originally posted by freddo
Just upgraded the kernel and thought i'd try out the console facitity. Logged ontop the server with it and then in another terminal (SSH) i rebooted. The console got partway through the shutdown message and froze. The console was not able to be logged into till the server came back up. So it seems that the console is just a very slow SSH. I thought I'd be able to see the shutdown and startup process just like the server was in front of me. At the current time i can't figure out why it was installed???? Am i missing something???? That's really odd... check the attachment. I suppose I'm just lucky 
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Dec 8 2004, 01:26 AM
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SuperGeek Group: Members Posts: 1,457 Joined: 13-April 02 Member No.: 2,042 |
SW-Ray - that is a Dell dual xeon - are you sure you're not viewing the DRAC interface? The DRAC does allow you to view the boot sequence, enter bios, select which kernel to boot, etc.
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Dec 8 2004, 06:00 AM
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Celery Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 1-September 04 Member No.: 14,326 |
QUOTE Originally posted by jeff-p4
SW-Ray - that is a Dell dual xeon - are you sure you're not viewing the DRAC interface? The DRAC does allow you to view the boot sequence, enter bios, select which kernel to boot, etc. Nope, I don't have DRAC on them. Besides, DRAC is accessed from a completely different (web) interface, along with a java client to view the console. I even have pictures to prove my servers are hooked up to serial consoles
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Dec 8 2004, 11:10 AM
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SuperGeek Group: Admin Posts: 1,431 Joined: 31-August 01 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 234 |
Do you have a Windows or Linux system?
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Dec 20 2004, 01:33 PM
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Techie Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 5-September 04 Member No.: 14,360 |
EV1 should get KVM's on all machines instead of consoles!
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Dec 20 2004, 02:10 PM
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SuperGeek Group: Admin Posts: 1,431 Joined: 31-August 01 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 234 |
Would you like to inquire about leasing one for your server?
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Aaron Conklin Product Manager - Complex Infrastructure |
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Dec 20 2004, 02:11 PM
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I'm not a Windows user, but I agree with eleven2support
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Dec 20 2004, 02:11 PM
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Techie Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 5-September 04 Member No.: 14,360 |
No not right now, but it would be a great additional to all servers, I have a half rack and will be getting full rack soon, so that will have it.
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Aug 11 2005, 11:55 PM
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hi,
if anyone in this thread is still interested, i just posted a howto for getting the grub menu and boot process info sent to the serial console: http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthread.php?t=57473 feel free to correct me on anything in there. -------------------- "Don't let your outrage for injustice end where your selfishness begins."
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Aug 12 2005, 09:26 AM
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 Computer Chip Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 3-January 05 Member No.: 15,415 |
QUOTE (eleven2support) EV1 should get KVM's on all machines instead of consoles!
YEAH! And also have dual processors instead of singles one, and quad ones instead of duals. Wait... What am I saying? This will actually happen after 4 years or so! -------------------- █ Paulius,
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